Comments Thread For: Pacquiao vs Margarito Clash is Possible, Says Arum

[EL_cano]

This is old news! Pac wanted Margarito while Mayweather was still retired. Funny thing is Pac was given no chance to beat him and now **** is all twisted. Pac will always be considered the underdog that proved many people wrond throughout his fights.

[solly6]

How about taking on Mayweather himself???

Oh, thats right he needs 30 days to recover after giving a teaspoon of blood......absurd.

your pretty boy should worry about beating one legit ww in mosley first before he concerns himself with Pac. If and its a big if floyd fights mosley and gets past him I'd bet they end up fighting at the end of the year. Floyd has to show some credibility in this division first though.

[Calilloyd]

i would be denying myself if I'll say NO. of course thats a very exciting fight. The problem is Arum is killing mayweathers career and thats the most requested fight in history...

Arum can't "kill" Mayweather's career that is in it's final stage. I hope you're not truly that ******.

[check hook]

Or Floyd could stop making up rules as he goes along.

that argument is so weak and you know it......do you really believe he needs 14 days to recover from getting a teaspoon of blood drawn?? If you do you are a moron......

[solly6]

that argument is so weak and you know it......do you really believe he needs 14 days to recover from getting a teaspoon of blood drawn?? If you do you are a moron......

no i agree with you on that. do you really think floyd needed to demand random blood testing for the first time ever in any boxing match. if you believe that your a moron.

[Modobo3]

Arum is going to destroy Pac's legacy if he avoids another Pac/PBF fight...All he's doing is padding his pocket and Manny hasn't shown that he's smart enough to notice that it is his legacy that is going to be tarnished, not Arum's - as all Arum cares about is the money...BTW, I'm not calling Pac dumb because he can be a great boxer, cool person but not a savvy business man...The sad part is Pac trusts Arum and doesn't believe he would do anything to harm him...Now, let's be clear, I'm taking about LEGACY NOT MONEY...because Arum has made him tons of Money! Remember Arum managed both ODLH and PBF...and they both left him because they were better informed about the business side of things and weren't as trusting as Pac.

But back to Pac and his legacy - do to the missteps and lies, everything Arum has done to build up Pac is slowly being undone...Can you believe how much luster Pac has already lost??? Before the PBF negotiations, Pac was on the verge of Superstardom...But right before our very eyes Pac is undeniably being rebranded - His loyal supporters will love him no matter what, because that's what supporters do...but MOST, not all fringe and true boxing fans now view him in a totally different light - AND THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO TAKE YOU TO SUPERSTARDOM, NOT YOUR LOYAL SUPPORTERS...

Many people will attempt to blame the Mayweathers for Manny's downfall but that would be a cop out...Arum, Roach and Pac have done far more to damage the Pac brand than PBF could have ever done; Which doesn't make much sense but that's another story altogether...It just never felt like they were inspired to make the fight that everyone wanted to see...and now that they've scheduled Clottey, they're already talking about a potential Margarito fight??? YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME...Watch what happens in this very thread...besides the usual PAC supporters you'll see the majority of NON-PAC STANS RIPPING HIM - Again, it is these boxing fans, fringe fans and media outlets that will make Pac an Iconic Megastar - from the beginning there just wasn't any enthusiasm from them in targeting PBF, they mentioned a lot of options instead of the person that everyone wanted them to challenge - People were in love with Pac and saw him as the confident KO artist that would beat the ****y and brash PBF, but instead he mentioned the likes of Malignaggi and Yuri???

Could you imagine Don King not doing everything he could to make the Tyson/Holyfield or Lewis fights - The Holy/Tyson fight which I might add had random blood tests??? or...Could you imagine GBP or PBF not doing everything they could to make their fight??? Arum from the start, constantly came up with reasons why the fight couldn't be made??? GBP and PBF until the very end never made any other plans...the only time they mentioned another fighter was when Arum officially announced Pac/Clottey which IS a solid fight...but I'm sorry but Clottey, Margarito, Yuri Foreman or any other in house Arum fighter doesn't offer anything that would be classified as career defining - Unless you want to chase the Yuri title but that won't draw any fans beyond diehard Pac fans - Heck, I'll still watch but I'm a boxing fanatic...But let's be clear it damn sure doesn't scream blockbuster...and I think a lot of NON-Pac Fanboys and girls will agree - If Manny is trying to move into the Tyson, Jordan, Tiger, Federer, etc. ICONIC catagory then he'll need a career defining fight and unfortunately PBF is it...Random blood test or not he must choose this fight...Not because PBF says so, or because he hasn't done alot in his career or because he's not nice or a steroid user (which I don't believe) but because the public demands it and unforunately Pac will take the blame even if Arum does all of the lying or obvious spinning...Look at these boards, polls, media outlets, boxers, etc...They're coming down on Pac not Arum...

Pac is a boxer, through and through and I hate to see what he's being rebranded as but if he continues on the current path that Arum has for him, he is going to end up destroying his legacy.

Peace Mo!

[rao007]

that argument is so weak and you know it......do you really believe he needs 14 days to recover from getting a teaspoon of blood drawn?? If you do you are a moron......

I thought it was a big tube of blood as some people have claimed?

[pistol whip]

that argument is so weak and you know it......do you really believe he needs 14 days to recover from getting a teaspoon of blood drawn?? If you do you are a moron......

Blood tests require more than a teaspoon of blood in fact they may need several viles of it to test correctly. I have taken lots of blood tests over the years and never was it just a teaspoon.

[nozorok]

I thought it was a big tube of blood as some people have claimed?

It's just a teaspoon of blood which is about 5ml. It would take 24hrs at most for the body to replenish that amount probably less for an athlete in Pac's condition. I can understand not doing it within 48hrs of a fight maybe even 72hrs but 14 days is a bit of a cop out.

[solly6]

Arum is going to destroy Pac's legacy if he avoids another Pac/PBF fight...All he's doing is padding his pocket and Manny hasn't shown that he's smart enough to notice that it is his legacy that is going to be tarnished, not Arum's - as all Arum cares about is the money...BTW, I'm not calling Pac dumb because he can be a great boxer, cool person but not a savvy business man...The sad part is Pac trusts Arum and doesn't believe he would do anything to harm him...Now, let's be clear, I'm taking about LEGACY NOT MONEY...because Arum has made him tons of Money! Remember Arum managed both ODLH and PBF...and they both left him because they were better informed about the business side of things and weren't as trusting as Pac.

But back to Pac and his legacy - do to the missteps and lies, everything Arum has done to build up Pac is slowly being undone...Can you believe how much luster Pac has already lost??? Before the PBF negotiations, Pac was on the verge of Superstardom...But right before our very eyes Pac is undeniably being rebranded - His loyal supporters will love him no matter what, because that's what supporters do...but MOST, not all fringe and true boxing fans now view him in a totally different light - AND THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO TAKE YOU TO SUPERSTARDOM, NOT YOUR LOYAL SUPPORTERS...

Many people will attempt to blame the Mayweathers for Manny's downfall but that would be a cop out...Arum, Roach and Pac have done far more to damage the Pac brand than PBF could have ever done; Which doesn't make much sense but that's another story altogether...It just never felt like they were inspired to make the fight that everyone wanted to see...and now that they've scheduled Clottey, they're already talking about a potential Margarito fight??? YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME...Watch what happens in this very thread...besides the usual PAC supporters you'll see the majority of NON-PAC STANS RIPPING HIM - Again, it is these boxing fans, fringe fans and media outlets that will make Pac an Iconic Megastar - from the beginning there just wasn't any enthusiasm from them in targeting PBF, they mentioned a lot of options instead of the person that everyone wanted them to challenge - People were in love with Pac and saw him as the confident KO artist that would beat the ****y and brash PBF, but instead he mentioned the likes of Malignaggi and Yuri???

Could you imagine Don King not doing everything he could to make the Tyson/Holyfield or Lewis fights - The Holy/Tyson fight which I might add had random blood tests??? or...Could you imagine GBP or PBF not doing everything they could to make their fight??? Arum from the start, constantly came up with reasons why the fight couldn't be made??? GBP and PBF until the very end never made any other plans...the only time they mentioned another fighter was when Arum officially announced Pac/Clottey which IS a solid fight...but I'm sorry but Clottey, Margarito, Yuri Foreman or any other in house Arum fighter doesn't offer anything that would be classified as career defining - Unless you want to chase the Yuri title but that won't draw any fans beyond diehard Pac fans - Heck, I'll still watch but I'm a boxing fanatic...But let's be clear it damn sure doesn't scream blockbuster...and I think a lot of NON-Pac Fanboys and girls will agree - If Manny is trying to move into the Tyson, Jordan, Tiger, Federer, etc. ICONIC catagory then he'll need a career defining fight and unfortunately PBF is it...Random blood test or not he must choose this fight...Not because PBF says so, or because he hasn't done alot in his career or because he's not nice or a steroid user (which I don't believe) but because the public demands it and unforunately Pac will take the blame even if Arum does all of the lying or obvious spinning...Look at these boards, polls, media outlets, boxers, etc...They're coming down on Pac not Arum...

Pac is a boxer, through and through and I hate to see what he's being rebranded as but if he continues on the current path that Arum has for him, he is going to end up destroying his legacy.

Peace Mo!

anyone who has ever seen a mayweather interview would look at this whole fiasco and know that it's just another one of his stunts. the guy is a complete fraud who is constantly embarrassing himself. arum's biggest mistake was that the instant floyd wanted random blood testing or anything else out of the ordinary he should have just told mayweather to **** off and called the fight off. they got ****** into mayweahter's manipulative games and it did look bad for both sides. they did the smart thing by picking the most challenging fighter out there in clottey after the negotiations fell through. now it's all on floyd. HE HAS TO FIGHT MOSLEY WITH NO BULL**** ANTICS OR DEMANDS (LIKE THE FIGHT BEING AT 154 AND WEARING 10OZ GLOVES) OR EVERYONE WILL NO JUST HOW BIG OF A JOKE HE IS.