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  • Maidana vs Rios
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    #171
    Originally posted by trufightfanatic
    scienitist also said for hundreds of years that the world was flat and just 9 years ago that there were WMDs in iraq. you can publish anything,and can substantiate it will all sort of so called expert research. does that make it true? im just stating it as I have seen it and observed it.
    Since you're dismissing science, in your view Olympic Style Tests, urine tests, and any scientific tests are useless then?

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    • trufightfanatic
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      #172
      Originally posted by Splackavellie
      Arnold Schwarzenegger quit steroids after he quit competitive bodybuilding. Did he shrink back down to normal size?
      uh yeah. look at Arnold in 1980 and look at him now, there is a substanial difference. and how do you know he quit using steroids anyway? and besides u keep talking about SIZE . does size make a person strong, fast, or durable? I bet when and if he quit using he was not as strong as he was when he was using, just my opinion.(I have not and cannot look this up)lol!
      Last edited by trufightfanatic; 01-19-2010, 11:37 PM.

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      • trufightfanatic
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        #173
        Originally posted by Splackavellie
        Since you're dismissing science, in your view Olympic Style Tests, urine tests, and any scientific tests are useless then?
        of course not. im talking about ur reference to swedish scientist. sure science has its importance and its place as it pertains to althletics. I feel that whatever has to be done to stop steroid use from doing to other sports what it has done to MLB should be done.

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          #174
          Originally posted by trufightfanatic
          uh yeah. look at Arnold in 1980 and look at him now, there is a substanial difference. and how do you know he quit using steroids anyway? and besides u keep talking about SIZE . does size make a person strong, fast, or durable? I bet when and if he quit using he was not as strong as he was when he was using, just my opinion.(I have not and cannot look this up)lol!
          Look at him now? Are you fn serious? He's a fn old man now! I'm talking about his Hollywood days, after he quit bodybuilding and he quit roids (google it). My lying eyes tell me he he was still Conan the fn Barbarian!

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          • trufightfanatic
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            #175
            Originally posted by Splackavellie
            Look at him now? Are you fn serious? He's a fn old man now! I'm talking about his Hollywood days, after he quit bodybuilding and he quit roids (google it). My lying eyes tell me he he was still Conan the fn Barbarian!

            u didn't answer my question as to whether or not u know he had stopped taking steroids.(google that?) i wondered what was taking u so long. and what the hell is normal size?

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              #176
              Originally posted by trufightfanatic
              u didn't answer my question as to whether or not u know he had stopped taking steroids.(google that?) i wondered what was taking u so long. and what the hell is normal size?
              Arnold did stop taking steroids. Googling is not hard, bro. Here:



              Arnold Schwarzenegger experimented with steroids when they were “new” and quit using them because they “didn’t belong” in his body. He implied only a brief experimentation with steroids when speaking with USA Today after President George H.W. Bush appointed him to President’s Council on Physical Fitness and Sports (1990):
              “It was new then. There were no laws against it. I experimented with it. I’m instinctive. I felt right away it was not a real thing. I felt something in my system didn’t belong there. I quit.”

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              • Modobo3
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                #177
                Originally posted by Splackavellie


                Cheaters Do Prosper
                Scientists in Sweden Make a Stunning Claim: The Benefits of Steroids May Never Go Away -- Even When Athletes Quit Taking Them
                (APRIL 4, 2008)


                http://online.wsj.com/public/article...f_main_tff_top

                So again, I ask, what is the point of these tests on Mosley? He has already benefited from steroids. Why would Floyd fight someone who is proven to be enhanced? Isn't that why he wouldn't fight Pacquiao, because they suspect Pacquiao is enhanced and won't submit to Olympic Style Tests? Well, with Mosley, they don't have to suspect anything, it's already PROVEN he took steroids and enhanced his body.

                If Floyd wouldn't fight Pac who he thinks is enhanced, why would he fight Mosley who he knows is enhanced?

                according to your article...the key word is May...in other words they aren't 100% sure...

                your not going to maintain the same physique.

                ...If you're a professional body builder, you're not going to maintain your size if don't continue to cycle on and off peds...the reason for many of these steroids is the increase of endurance and healing...i.e., if your able to workout longer and heal quicker, you'll maximize your results...but, if you then cycle off, you'll no longer maintain your previous size and strength because of the lack of edurance and slowdown in the healing process.

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                • small_warrior
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Splackavellie
                  Suppose Mosley is clean now, which I think he is.

                  Does that matter? He has used steroids in the past. Even after you stop using steroids, the effects remain. Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger. He used steroids back when he was bodybuilding, then he quit. After he quit, did he shrink back down to the size of a normal man? Nope, not at all. Once the steroids do their job and have their muscle building effects, it's relatively easy to maintiain the muscle mass even without steroids.

                  This brings us back to Shane. Even if he's clean now, he is already proven to be enhanced. He has used in the past, and the steroids have already done their work.

                  So I ask, what is the point of these tests in this case? To prove that Shane is clean NOW? What difference does that make if he is already enhanced by proven past steroid use?

                  I wonder if Ellerbe and Floyd Sr. have thought of this. They didn't want to fight Pac without Olympic Style Testing because they suspected he was enhanced. Well, Mosley is PROVEN to be enhanced; he has admitted to past steroid use. Even if he's clean now, he's still enhanced. Something for Ellerbe, Haymon, and Floyd, Sr. to think about....


                  he used roids to get at 154 lb now he fights at 147 so what's the problem

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                  • BoxingScribe
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                    #179
                    I won't call Floyd a ***** EVER AGAIN if he signs this fight. I wanted this fight over a Pacquiao fight ANYWAy. Taking NOTHING away from Manny, but if this fight gets signed, I am shooting for ringside seats.

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                    • pugay_kamay
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by M.I.C.
                      I wish Pac was a smarter guy, dumb decision to not test and not fight Mayweather. Pac-Clottey should be a non PPV affair, they are insulting and taking advantage of boxing fans.
                      Look who's talking!

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