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  • Originally posted by Hijo de Dios View Post
    Didn't Kizer also say that the cheaters are always ahead of the testers? Which was the case with Shane?

    Nice selective quoting.

    You mean that cheaters ahead of USADA testers too??? then, what's the use of insisting this Olympic style random blood test then, if you're right on this!

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    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      Pac didn't hurt Floyd's pockets. Manny hurt his image instead.
      In actuality, Pac could have done better by agreeing to Floyd's
      demand in terms of satisfying his sponsors and making them
      feel confident that Manny is clean. All everybody wanted was
      to see this fight happen and Pac didn't make it happen because
      of random blood tests? Who cares what people think or say?
      The overall goal in life is to progress and succeed in life. I'm
      not buying that Manny feelings were hurt because since he
      was never caught cheating why would he feel like his image or
      name is being slandered? He should have taken the tests and
      showed the world Floyd Sr, Jr and Golden Boy were wrong and
      hard work was what got him this far not enhancements.
      This fight will not gonna happened because Floyd intentionally put Pac in a very awkward position in the very first place of their negotiation because of his malicious accusation against Pac! How could be a smooth sailing negotiation when Floyd killed it outrightly in the very first place by shooting Pac with unfounded defamation??!

      It's just natural to negotiate for venue, purse split, etc which are the normal things to negotiate in boxing for years, but to negotiate for an outlandish things to further his personal interests by satiating his su****ions that this demand does not exists or happened in real world of boxing history, is absolutely nonesense and unacceptable! If all the acknowledged governing bodies of boxing adopted this Floyd demand to become their universal practice of testing bloods to boxers and would take effect immediately, then I think there's no reason for Pac to be insulted by this demand, much more of not subjecting himself to this kind of random blood testing. However, while this Floyd demand is not incorporated to any of the major boxing bodies for blood testing then it would be wrong, unethicate and insulting in the part of Pac of been singlehanded by Floyd to subject themselves to this random blood testing which nothing less than a tantamount of accusing Pac of using PED. Floyd is known as master of putting his opponent into this mess by mere baseless accusations, and once again he used this ploy to effectively putting himself away from supposedly Pac immenent threat in the ring! And the beauty of Floyd's masterpiece is, he at the same time capitalize this to put all blames into Pac for the failed negotiation.

      As a result of Floyd's sharp tongue, he could able to muster big followers to demand Pac ceding with his demand, but in reality, most of these fans just wanted Pac to do what Floyd demanded so this megafight will push through as planned, but very few actually concerned whether Pac was using this PED or not because most of them believes that Pac is clean before, now and in his future fights. What ever reasons for Pac of not taking this random blood testing, most of us believes it's not because he was using this PED but many of us convinced that his ego was hurt of this grave but false accusations by Floyd and we can not single-handedly accused Pac of blowing this possibly $40 millions just because of his reluctance. Pac attained his stature as the superstar of boxing and can not just vow to Floyd demand, thus it was Floyd who blew into thin air this $40 millions of killing the negotiations in the very first place just to protect his legacy of having "0" loss records!

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      • Damn RIGHT!

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        • Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Post
          This fight will not gonna happened because Floyd intentionally put Pac in a very awkward position in the very first place of their negotiation because of his malicious accusation against Pac! How could be a smooth sailing negotiation when Floyd killed it outrightly in the very first place by shooting Pac with unfounded defamation??!

          It's just natural to negotiate for venue, purse split, etc which are the normal things to negotiate in boxing for years, but to negotiate for an outlandish things to further his personal interests by satiating his su****ions that this demand does not exists or happened in real world of boxing history, is absolutely nonesense and unacceptable! If all the acknowledged governing bodies of boxing adopted this Floyd demand to become their universal practice of testing bloods to boxers and would take effect immediately, then I think there's no reason for Pac to be insulted by this demand, much more of not subjecting himself to this kind of random blood testing. However, while this Floyd demand is not incorporated to any of the major boxing bodies for blood testing then it would be wrong, unethicate and insulting in the part of Pac of been singlehanded by Floyd to subject themselves to this random blood testing which nothing less than a tantamount of accusing Pac of using PED. Floyd is known as master of putting his opponent into this mess by mere baseless accusations, and once again he used this ploy to effectively putting himself away from supposedly Pac immenent threat in the ring! And the beauty of Floyd's masterpiece is, he at the same time capitalize this to put all blames into Pac for the failed negotiation.

          As a result of Floyd's sharp tongue, he could able to muster big followers to demand Pac ceding with his demand, but in reality, most of these fans just wanted Pac to do what Floyd demanded so this megafight will push through as planned, but very few actually concerned whether Pac was using this PED or not because most of them believes that Pac is clean before, now and in his future fights. What ever reasons for Pac of not taking this random blood testing, most of us believes it's not because he was using this PED but many of us convinced that his ego was hurt of this grave but false accusations by Floyd and we can not single-handedly accused Pac of blowing this possibly $40 millions just because of his reluctance. Pac attained his stature as the superstar of boxing and can not just vow to Floyd demand, thus it was Floyd who blew into thin air this $40 millions of killing the negotiations in the very first place just to protect his legacy of having "0" loss records!
          Bob Arum, Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao ducked
          Floyd Mayweather Jr. If Floyd would have done the
          same thing that Manny did I would say he ducked
          Manny Pacquiao. There's no way in hell you blow
          40MIL because someone is accusing you of something.
          The random blood testing was in the contract from the
          very beginning. Even Roach said that Manny would
          take any tests and pass it so it was no big deal? So
          why didn't the fight happen? Roach out of his mouth
          said he needed more time to get Pac ready for Floyd
          because Floyd style is totally different from his last
          4 opponents AND he would have to get Manny to see
          what he sees. Now all of a sudden Manny walks away
          from the biggest fight of his career and the sport because
          of accusations? Now he is fighting Joshua Clottey, a guy
          even Arum says Pac speed will be too much for? I wish
          people would read between the lines and put the personal
          hate aside.

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          • Hi there drug experts. Educate us all please. What specific illegal drug/substance can pass detection if you do urine testing everyday? They also test for masking agents by the way(well you know that since y'all are experts).

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            • Originally posted by Maximillian View Post
              Hi there drug experts. Educate us all please. What specific illegal drug/substance can pass detection if you do urine testing everyday? They also test for masking agents by the way(well you know that since y'all are experts).
              They won't be able to tell you, there is only so much information google can provide them.

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              • Originally posted by check hook View Post
                Actually he did......he just couldn't get there. He said he was 145 the night before the weigh in but woke up at 146.....he went for a jog the morning of the weigh in but still came in @ 146....he said he at least wanted to get to 145 if he couldn't make 44. they called team Marquez and informed them of the weight issue and agreed to pay a penalty for each pound over.

                Not intentional...just unprofessional. All the *******s here are overlooking the fact he still got down to 146.....there is no way he will ever come in above 147 in a welterweight fight..........
                why are u so sure,are u ellerbe or something?? the fact is FMJ didnt make an effort to squeeze down to the contracted weight coz hes afraid hes gonna lose to a overbloated featherweight midget

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                • Originally posted by renren40 View Post
                  It means they are clean.

                  You are not going to see a USADA revolution in sports.
                  Originally posted by renren40 View Post
                  like i said..

                  you are not going to see a surge in random blood testing in sports...especially during training camps for combat sports...

                  its not safe and unsterile
                  Originally posted by renren40 View Post
                  the piss test is good enough....
                  Originally posted by sNiTcH View Post
                  So NSAC is not reliable when it comes to this test?
                  Originally posted by FightFreak View Post
                  FYI to those who keep mentioning Shane's passing tests a century ago. Kizer has already acknowledged that guys like Shane who were able to pass the tests in the past did so because NSAC did not test for traces of PEDs like the cream and the clear. They do now.

                  It's nice to see you raise hell about keeping the playing field level while keeping a blind eye to ***** boy's history of using xylocaine, though. That's called fair play... for *****s.

                  Bok-bok-bokk!

                  But now he same testing ya'll praised is not good enough for Juan?

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                    • Come on lets discuss this

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