MUST WATCH: Victor Ortiz Documentary

[tito_bandito]

some of you guys are *******s. ortiz is just a kid, he's comming up in the game. he's got alot to learn. you don't need to dissect him. he's moving on and looking for a rematch. how are any of you fools gonna talk about heart? i guarantee ain't none of you have the heart this kid has, most of you ain't even laced'em up and stepped into the ring.

Exactly; since when has it been cool to hate on someone that has the roughest background in the top of the division? That's hateraid!!!

[MindBat]

Ortiz is still young and has long road ahead. Has a lot of potential, but if his heart is not in it as a boxer, he won't be around for long. His style needs much tweaking. Especially his defense if he's to be a force to be reckoned with.

If all else fails, he'd make a great commentator someday. Kid is well spoken and is likable. I wish him well.

[Check]

I like Victor a lot and I can relate to his story so I root for the guy. Thing is I have been following him for a while and just never seen him as one of those can't miss prospect. Sure, the guy is good but I don't think he is great or will ever be great. Either way I root for him to do well and wish him the best.

[NWO4Life]

Yeah it sure does make him such a ***** for choosing NOT to idolize a total punk-ass ****bag gangster like Fernando Vargas and instead go with the clean-cut almost universally loved Oscar De La Hoya.

Yeah, he should have hitched his wagon to Fernando Vargas star just b/c they were both from La Colonia projects down in Oxnard...that would've been keepin it REAL, right?!?! The same Vargas who was still getting in gang fights beating people up with golf clubs in Carpenteria less than a month before an important fight. Vargas was a punk and ran around with trashy gangsters all the time and never got away from that even after becoming a successful professional boxer. Why in the world should Ortiz, a kid who seems to be intelligent, well-mannered, well-spoken, and wants to get AWAY from his rough childhood background intentionally "keep it gangsta" like that, just so some internet ******s don't accuse him of being a sell-out??? Kid has a good head on his shoulders and is a model of how to conduct oneself when coming from such a rough upbringing, and there is no reason to fault him for getting away from trash like Vargas and all of his Oxnard hoodlum cronies...

That being said, he did disappoint me with his comments after the Maidana fight and hopefully kid comes back and has a successful career.

[onechance87]

Yeah it sure does make him such a ***** for choosing NOT to idolize a total punk-ass ****bag gangster like Fernando Vargas and instead go with the clean-cut almost universally loved Oscar De La Hoya.

Yeah, he should have hitched his wagon to Fernando Vargas star just b/c they were both from La Colonia projects down in Oxnard...that would've been keepin it REAL, right?!?! The same Vargas who was still getting in gang fights beating people up with golf clubs in Carpenteria less than a month before an important fight. Vargas was a punk and ran around with trashy gangsters all the time and never got away from that even after becoming a successful professional boxer. Why in the world should Ortiz, a kid who seems to be intelligent, well-mannered, well-spoken, and wants to get AWAY from his rough childhood background intentionally "keep it gangsta" like that, just so some internet ******s don't accuse him of being a sell-out??? Kid has a good head on his shoulders and is a model of how to conduct oneself when coming from such a rough upbringing, and there is no reason to fault him for getting away from trash like Vargas and all of his Oxnard hoodlum cronies...

That being said, he did disappoint me with his comments after the Maidana fight and hopefully kid comes back and has a successful career.

Good post.

[southpaw_07]

Exactly; since when has it been cool to hate on someone that has the roughest background in the top of the division? That's hateraid!!!

another illegal immigrant that can't spell but somehow managed to slip over the border and is now busy humping Ortiz

[MindBat]

Ortiz has a good head on his shoulders. Everyone is on a different journey in this life. I think Ortiz admires Varga's rise to fame and his accomplishments in the ring more so than his life outside of it, and can more readily relate to Vargas since their both Mexican American, from the same neighborhood, and in the same industry.

His future remains to be seen.

[tito_bandito]

I still think that he can be a great fighter if he gets a new trainer, but damn in a weird way he brings out the best qualities of both de la hoya and vargas in his personality and fighting style...

[Big_L]

ortiz aint from oxnard. dude is from kansas.

[tito_bandito]

ortiz aint from oxnard. dude is from kansas.

We know that but he spent a good amount of time in oxnard