Did Anyone Find It Strange That Pac Said NO?

[MindBat]

If Floyd is as bad as he professes to be, the miniscule, if any, advantage that someone might gain from roiding from a 24-day period to 14 days before a fight should not have been sufficient to beat him.

From what I have read, taking roids for 10 days would have such a negligible effect that it would not be worth the effort. If Pacman took roids from a 24-day period to a 14 days, there still might be enough left in his system to test positive immediately after the fight.

McGwire did heavy roids over a period of years to gain some advantage in his power hitting. He was never tested over this time. Pacman has been tested several times, never tested positive. There is also nothing that he has done that cannot be attributed to his own ability and work ethic.

Mayweather watched Pacman's results and decided he did not really want that type of fight. He only wants to fight someone where he knows he will win, before the fight starts. So he set up never before seen standards for testing in boxing, that were unnecessary, so he could find a way out of this matchup.

His adoring fans will believe whatever he tells them to. So, to them it is right.

But the intelligent observer, can clearly see through his guile.

Your post would have made more sense had Team Pacquiao declined to agree to Olympic-style random drug testing as soon as they spotted it in the contract.

Making up excuses like "We'll take any tests any time" and "Manny is afraid of needles" raises more concerns about him than it does to ease the doubts people now have about him.

[General Zod]

Shane Mosley never failed a drug test, neither did Tommy Morrison.

Neither has Evander 'Evan Fields' Holyfield

[jqSide]

No fighter using peds will have them in thier system on the day of the fight. You use them during training, then come off them about a week or so before your competition, so you have a body enhanced by drug induced training but not the drugs themselves in your system. Surely you should know this by now?

LOL. Unbelievable. And (24-14) 10 days makes a lot of difference?

Isn't that the whole point of what Pacquiao's person all about? He assumed that PED's are some kind of drugs that take effect immediately and dissipate gradually just like ordinary medicine. If you read local papers in the Philippines, that's what most of the people think about them. He obviously knows nothing about these so-called roids.

This is crazy. He should have agreed to take tests every freaking minute just to satisfy *****s who can't admit Floyd is simply scared of facing Pac in the ring.

And to be honest, I'm not sure this fight, if it happens at all, will even be as close as people thought it would be. I could guarantee that it would be a lopsided match in favor of Pac. A fight with one scared fighter is not exactly the kind of fight anyone would be excited to see.

[Ray*]

Let move on...

[General Zod]

LOL. Unbelievable. And (24-14) 10 days makes a lot of difference?

Isn't that the whole point of what Pacquiao's person all about? He assumed that PED's are some kind of drugs that take effect immediately and dissipate gradually just like ordinary medicine. If you read local papers in the Philippines, that's what most of the people think about them. He obviously knows nothing about these so-called roids.

This is crazy. He should have agreed to take tests every freaking minute just to satisfy *****s who can't admit Floyd is simply scared of facing Pac in the ring.

And to be honest, I'm not sure this fight, if it happens at all, will even be as close as people thought it would be. I could guarantee that it would be a lopsided match in favor of Pac. A fight with one scared fighter is not exactly the kind of fight anyone would be excited to see.

Dude Pacquiao never agreed to random testing he offered three tests on fixed dates. He agree to move the middle test date to 24 days before the fight and at no time did he agree to random testing. I cannot believe that you do not know this by now or are you choosing not to know this.

As for your point on this fight being a lopsided matchup, I believe the fighters who gave Manny the most trouble were right hand dominant fighters with a good straight right handsw, like Morales and Marquez. And Mayweather is the same as the above but also much better defensively then the above mentioned fighters, so how can you say it will be a easy fight for Manny?

[tsii]

Pacs not proven guilty,but anyone with original thought,would say it raises eyebrows,due to the massive payday that was passed up for sure.You cant say hes guilty,but you can speculate.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

This is not a troll thread but a real thread because this has stuck in my head and I wonder even what the Pac fans say about it. That is something that no one has ever really talked about on here. Weve made a ton of threads & post about Arum and stuff like that but the last stuff that came out before the fight was called off was almost like they were throwing Pac under the bus. Did anyone else feel that way?

People were talking about the 2 weeks and even Pac fans said that seemed fair. Then it came out that they offered them that way back on the 1st of January. Everyone took it as the team didnt want that date or Arum, or Koncz or whoever but then the media started asking them and Koncz waz like, "I took the 2 week thing to Pac and he said NO and that was it".

No one has talked about that. To me the way he said it was like he was throwing Pac under the bus. Like the team wouldve went with it if Pac said yes but he didnt and the way he said it made it seem like Pac didnt just say NO but he said it emphatically like dont ask me about the **** anymore. Then a few days later Arum basically said the same exact thing about Pac saying NO after 1st he was acting like he himself didnt want it. He then tried to play it off by saying stuff like, he's glad Pac is standing up to the Mayweathers.

Seriously though, I dont mean this as a troll or anything but is anyone else shocked that Pac was basically the one who called it off? The others made it clear that they took the fight to Pac and it was up to him and he basically acted like he didnt want anything to do with it. This is the same guy who everyone the whole time was saying that he was cool with the testing but just not the day of the fight, then it was 2 days before the fight. Now they came with a 2 week offer and he not only turned it down but they made it sound like he was saying "Hell NO"! That was just super strange to me because I kinda expected that from Arum & stuff but not Pac and no one in the media has even talked about it, that he was the final person to say NO and did it emphatically.

Are Pac fans ok with this, even after saying 2 weeks seemed fair? Are you shocked that Pac was the guy who said NO? Dont get me wrong, its definitely not all on Pac as both sides have blame but it just shocked me some that it happened that way at the end

If pac agreed to the 14 days, it would mean pac gave in to mayweather. Pac said 24, may said 14. That is the whole point of negotiating especially when it comes to 2 huge egos. Compromise.


The compromise would be somewhere in between.

Who didnt want to compromise is anybodys guess.

[Carpe Diem]

It didn't seems strange because he never wanted fight Floyd in the first place, i don't think he's on steroid, but he sure didn't wanted any part of Mayweather. It was all part of their plans since the beginning. Why would they even contemplated about Manny fighting someone else before Floyd? Doesn't it seems like they weren't prepared for Floyd?

[MindBat]

It didn't seems strange because he never wanted fight Floyd in the first place, i don't think he's on steroid, but he sure didn't wanted any part of Mayweather. It was all part of their plans since the beginning. Why would they even contemplated about Manny fighting someone else before Floyd? Doesn't it seems like they weren't prepared for Floyd?

That's my feeling as well. Either they never wanted to face Floyd or they didn't think they would prepare properly within the given time.

I too was expecting the fight to be officially set for a later date in the year due to Manny's political commitments.

But Team Pacquiao proposed the March date even when Freddie is on the record stating that March would have been too soon for Manny.

Go figure.

[Carpe Diem]

No one here knows Pac.. Why are people saying this.. What you seem him act like in the media, doesn't mean thats who he is.

Remember 24/7? Roach was getting mad, because they had to go. Pac got all pissy llooking with him. Like a little girl.. Thats the reality of who Pac is/has turned into. He's rich, and you only see him in the media.

That's what i've been saying. No one knows the real Manny Pacquaio except the people whom are close to him.