TIM BRADLEY vs JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ @ 140 WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE IT?

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  • Jim Jeffries
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    #31
    Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
    I've only seen one fighter ever manhandle Marquez and that was Mayweather.
    He also only has two other fights above 130, and he is getting pretty long in the tooth/ringworn.

    I'd like to see JMM fight Hatton for the money and it's a fight he should win, or a third with Pac, which he won't. But he's got nothing left to prove and made enough in the Floyd fight. He's ancient for a career FW, I'd like to see him retire, while he can still talk.

    And Bradley whips him at this stage.


    Edit: Yeah, he's got manhandled in every fight he's ever had over LW.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Hank$Moody
      He also only has two other fights above 130, and he is getting pretty long in the tooth/ringworn.

      I'd like to see JMM fight Hatton for the money and it's a fight he should win, or a third with Pac, which he won't. But he's got nothing left to prove and made enough in the Floyd fight. He's ancient for a career FW, I'd like to see him retire, while he can still talk.

      And Bradley whips him at this stage.


      Edit: Yeah, he's got manhandled in every fight he's ever had over LW.
      I am starting to lean toward either a rematch with Juan Diaz or a fight with Hatton...I don't think he has or should fight anyone like Bradley now. Bradley would thrash him the more I think about it. Bradley is a very strong JWW and fights well on the inside. I think Bradley can be hurt (Holt) but I do not think JMM has the pop Holt has at 140lbs...Lefty

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      • AllEyesOpen
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        #33
        Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
        If JMM can beat Bradley I would be thoroughly impressed. I think he would not be a push over by any means but at 140 or above I just don't see the same reflexes and quickness required for counter punching from JMM also his punches seemed to bounce off Floyd chin like swatting nats. Now I know Floyd has a good D and chin but I the question is here can JMM hurt Bradley because I think he needs a stoppage in order to win this fight...Lefty
        Very good points, hard to say since we haven't seen Marquez at 140, and against Mayweather he really wasn't able to counterpunch at all. If Bradley stays on the defense like Mayweather did it would stop Marquez from getting into his counterpunching rythm, but if he mixes it up with Marquez it would give him a great shot of landing some shots he didn't see coming and he might be able to hurt him. Marquez is a very intellegent boxer and if there's a why to beat Bradley he'll figure it out but again you never know. I'd love to see this fight tho.

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          #34
          Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
          Very good points, hard to say since we haven't seen Marquez at 140, and against Mayweather he really wasn't able to counterpunch at all. If Bradley stays on the defense like Mayweather did it would stop Marquez from getting into his counterpunching rythm, but if he mixes it up with Marquez it would give him a great shot of landing some shots he didn't see coming and he might be able to hurt him. Marquez is a very intellegent boxer and if there's a why to beat Bradley he'll figure it out but again you never know. I'd love to see this fight tho.

          I think Marquez may be the smartest fighter in the game. I think he would gethis counter punching opportunities since Bradley has a high work rate but who knows if Bradley would switch up his style for this fight. I think this should be a fight people are talking and I am wondering why it hasn't been mentioned. ...Lefty

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            #35
            Originally posted by Hank$Moody
            He also only has two other fights above 130, and he is getting pretty long in the tooth/ringworn.

            I'd like to see JMM fight Hatton for the money and it's a fight he should win, or a third with Pac, which he won't. But he's got nothing left to prove and made enough in the Floyd fight. He's ancient for a career FW, I'd like to see him retire, while he can still talk.

            And Bradley whips him at this stage.


            Edit: Yeah, he's got manhandled in every fight he's ever had over LW.
            He beat the **** out of and knocked out Diaz, so i wouldn't consider that manhandled, just cause he was fighting off the ropes doesn't mean he was manhandled considering he was more effective in those exchanges then Diaz was. besides that it only leaves Mayweather, like i said 1st time manhandled.

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              #36
              time for JMM to pull out that 'last great fight'...he would need it against Tim

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                #37
                Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                He beat the **** out of and knocked out Diaz, so i wouldn't consider that manhandled, just cause he was fighting off the ropes doesn't mean he was manhandled considering he was more effective in those exchanges then Diaz was.
                My man he said over LW Diaz vs Marquez was at LW...The only fight he had over LW was with Floyd...So I think you jumped the gun with you post...Lefty

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                  I am starting to lean toward either a rematch with Juan Diaz or a fight with Hatton...I don't think he has or should fight anyone like Bradley now. Bradley would thrash him the more I think about it. Bradley is a very strong JWW and fights well on the inside. I think Bradley can be hurt (Holt) but I do not think JMM has the pop Holt has at 140lbs...Lefty
                  I'd be fine with Diaz, but it'd be meaningless unless it was keeping him warm for another fight and how much longer can he realistically fight? Suppose he could go out with a win, though there's certainly no shame in losing to Mayweather.

                  Marquez showed some pop at LW, but the couple of shots he got through to Mayweather didn't seem to phase him at all. Doubtful he could stop Bradley and I don't see him outworking him, either. Plus at higher weights, Marquez seemed to have a lot more trouble with speed. Not a fight I'd pick for him.

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                  • AllEyesOpen
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                    My man he said over LW Diaz vs Marquez was at LW...The only fight he had over LW was with Floyd...So I think you jumped the gun with you post...Lefty
                    true, my bad but then he shouldn't have argued cause I said " Mayweather was the only person to manhandle Marquez, and technically he agreed.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                      true, my bad but then he shouldn't have argued cause I said " Mayweather was the only person to manhandle Marquez, and technically he agreed.
                      Yes and then he made a TRUE STATEMENT saying Marquez has gotten manhandled in every fight he has had above LW...really doesnt matter but no need to butt heads we are having a good debate here....

                      Moody I think JMM would be a good fight for Bradley at this stage. He has a good name he is still seen as a threat for reasons you stated. On the flip side if JMM pulls out a W he grabs GOLD at JWW and puts himself back in the running for a third fight with PAC? Maybe a money fight w ???. We agree there is no one below 140 for him to fight worth making any money off of.....Lefty

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