Atlas and Reporter Going Hard At It!!!!!!

[B u r n e r]

At the end of the day Pac needed 24 Days to recover from a blood test.

Unacceptable.

[Gutz]

At the end of the day Pac needed 24 Days to recover from a blood test.

Unacceptable.

There was no need for a blood test anyway..

[Pork Chop]

Let me guess..you were fucked for 29 days straight too right?..hence Pacquiao asking for 30 days to be sure and clear of any wooziness?..

Have you ever fought before?
The second to last week before a fight, in a lot of gyms, is called hell week.
it's the week where you do the hardest training.
if you're woozy for even 2 days in hell week (let alone the day to go get the tests done), your training isn't going to be ideal.

and as for the weights..of course those are agreed upon..especially title fights..but most fights are within a weightclass limit that already exist..not their own..Mayweather came in 2lbs over and paid his fine..cool..but $10mil per pound isn't a little overboard?..

apparently pac wants to be paid for his training time
because roach has already stated many times that they will not continue with the fights against fighters who don't make weight.

You know what Olympic-Style testing is for?..to make sure they're both going in on equal terms with no doubt or su****ion when one beats the other..and may look incredible doing it..

they both clear their names..are obviously clean..and the best man wins...simple..

I'm pretty sure this fight's going to go down before year's end, unless floyd tearfully retires before then (again); so it's really not *that* huge a deal.
I'm sure by then pac will be smiling in 24/7 footage of having blood drawn randomly every couple days and everyone will be on their way to banking huge $$.

I guess that's the thing that gets me the most about this whole issue.
This type of crud has gone on before, like Tyson getting licensed, in the end money's a big talker and allowances get made.
In this instance the money for Cowboys stadium is probably too big for Arum to pass up and GBP threw that off the table immediately.

[Pork Chop]

At the end of the day Pac needed 24 Days to recover from a blood test.

Unacceptable.

no, merely Pac needed as much time as possible to train in the last 20 (24 minus the 4 days to recover as per Roach) days before the fight.

[..WaRSpencE..]

Have you ever fought before?
The second to last week before a fight, in a lot of gyms, is called hell week.
it's the week where you do the hardest training.
if you're woozy for even 2 days in hell week (let alone the day to go get the tests done), your training isn't going to be ideal.

So Pacquiao is the only person in the world who can't go thru this??..Mayweather will also be getting tested during this so called "hell week"..and a handful of other boxers and boxing experts said they would also take the tests if asked to..

apparently pac wants to be paid for his training time
because roach has already stated many times that they will not continue with the fights against fighters who don't make weight.

Tha'ts fair..but $10mil is a stretch..to be honest..it seems as if they put that number out there hoping Mayweather would say HELL NO..but he simply said.."ok" just like Pacquiao should have...

I'm pretty sure this fight's going to go down before year's end, unless floyd tearfully retires before then (again); so it's really not *that* huge a deal.
I'm sure by then pac will be smiling in 24/7 footage of having blood drawn randomly every couple days and everyone will be on their way to banking huge $$.

I guess that's the thing that gets me the most about this whole issue.
This type of crud has gone on before, like Tyson getting licensed, in the end money's a big talker and allowances get made.
In this instance the money for Cowboys stadium is probably too big for Arum to pass up and GBP threw that off the table immediately.

I can see you're not a big Floyd fan by this part..but I'm not either to be honest..I just call it how I see it..and all this drama could have been avoided if Pacquiao would have just cleared his name..and not let Arum and Roach scramble for excuses for him..Mayweather sr wasn't the first person to have an opinion about Pacquiao and Steroids..it's just that he's famous enough to make a big buzz out of it..

Truth is..we're in an era where steroids isn't such a big surprise..and I don't see random blood testing in any sport as a bad thing..it's part of life to have blood drawn..but if you're willing to walk away from $30mil and the world suspecting you're dirty..I gotta admit..it doesn't look good for Pacquiao..

[billionaire]

thats a good point about roach training toney vs ruiz, when toney took steroids....so roach wouldnt even know if pac does steroids....

[..WaRSpencE..]

no, merely Pac needed as much time as possible to train in the last 20 (24 minus the 4 days to recover as per Roach) days before the fight.

LMAO!..

Pacquiao was filming Wapakman during the last 20 days of his previous fight..a 5-min procedure of withdrawing some drops of blood wouldn't be anymore distracting then being a high flying superhero in tights..

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

I'm sorry i don't understand this argument...
Weights are a typical part of fight negotiations
should pac be just like corrales, who walked away from a fight he trained hard for and money he was prepared to earn, only to have the guilty party hit with a fine that never tops 6 figures?
i just don't get the hate

instead of requesting extra testing, if PBF had asked for x-millions of dollars if Pac was found to have failed a drug test; ensuring his ability to walk away from a fight with a "dirty" fighter and not put his health at risk, i don't think anybody would be saying ****. because in that case, you're talking about repercussions if someone's found to have done something wrong. in the current case, there's no proof that pac's done anything wrong, but he's being asked to suffer (ie through tests he obviously isn't comfortable with).

there's a fundamental difference in logic there.

one is "he's guilty because I think so, so he must suffer"
the other is "he's guilty because we proved he did something wrong, now make him pay"

i guess the *****s will just say i'm a ******* but this is really getting silly.

the whole object of the damn drug test is to prevent pacq from doping so he can get his azz abused in the ring. The guy aint asking to avoid the fight. he is asking so that he knows that the better fighter will win. not the better ped user.

[Pork Chop]

So Pacquiao is the only person in the world who can't go thru this??

no, it just happens to hamper him more than other folks

..Mayweather will also be getting tested during this so called "hell week"..and a handful of other boxers and boxing experts said they would also take the tests if asked to..

well obviously it doesn't affect them the same way.

this isn't a contest to see who can perform the best after giving blood, this is a fight and both fighters should be coming in at their best. it'd be like if floyd were diabetic and manny was trying to mandate an ice cream sunday 2 weeks before the fight. kind of a d!ck move to mess with someone's training.

Tha'ts fair..but $10mil is a stretch..to be honest..it seems as if they put that number out there hoping Mayweather would say HELL NO..but he simply said.."ok" just like Pacquiao should have...

well he could've said "ok" at the question "how about 24 days?"
so this is a straw man

I can see you're not a big Floyd fan by this part..but I'm not either to be honest..I just call it how I see it..and all this drama could have been avoided if Pacquiao would have just cleared his name..and not let Arum and Roach scramble for excuses for him..Mayweather sr wasn't the first person to have an opinion about Pacquiao and Steroids..it's just that he's famous enough to make a big buzz out of it..

I agree with you
i just have this sneaking su****ion that arum called the shots, let the fight drop because he knew there was money in Dallas, and doesn't give 2 ****s about Pac's rep. I mean Pac wants to go into politics, you would think he would want to look like a stand up guy for that no?

Truth is..we're in an era where steroids isn't such a big surprise..and I don't see random blood testing in any sport as a bad thing..it's part of life to have blood drawn..but if you're willing to walk away from $30mil and the world suspecting you're dirty..I gotta admit..it doesn't look good for Pacquiao..

agree with you on the first part
but i don't think they're that big a deal
life really isn't fair
there's no such thing as a "level playing field"
some people have good genetics
some don't
some people have great support structures
a lot don't
some people have awesome coaches
most don't

the olympics is a crazy situation
there are things on the banned supplement list that are completely legal in almost any country, yet if one turns up in a drug test, the athlete loses their once in a lifetime chance.

in the end, testing is only going to remove those who don't know how to beat the test
those who really want to are going to do what it takes to beat the test
no test is unbeatable
i think that's roach's argument "a clean blood test is no guarantee of anything, so why are you trying to take training time away from my fighter before the biggest fight of his career?"

[Pork Chop]

Pacquiao was filming Wapakman during the last 20 days of his previous fight..a 5-min procedure of withdrawing some drops of blood wouldn't be anymore distracting then being a high flying superhero in tights..

so he wasn't in the gym at all during those 20 days?
or even this: he was out of the gym for around 4 days during those 20?

because that's how long Roach says it takes for him to recover, which is not the same as going to do a movie shoot for an hour or two after your gym session.