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  • the mesiah
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    #31
    Well ruiz has ran out of his 99 lives , I still watch that jones fight and just simply can't believe how much jones ballooned up. Ruiz only has experience on his side and hate has too many advantages going for him.I see a ud or if not a late round stoppage..

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    • ChopperRead
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      #32
      Originally posted by vanillacoke
      Some people think Valuev beat him, not a lot. Anybody who can score a fight knows that Haye won. It's usually bitter americans that can't stand Haye and would root for a Russian over a Brit. You can count all the punches Valuev landed on one hand for **** sake. David Haye outboxed him all night and wobbled him in the final round. The fact that he got the decision IN GERMANY pretty much proves he deserved to win.

      But I guess if you are a fan of slow, unskilled and plodding fighters like Nikolai Valuev and give points for hitting air and getting outboxed and outskilled in every way possible, you could have that lumbering freak winning.
      Would you call Jim Watt at Sky Sports a "bitter American?" He had Valuev winning and I agree with him. It was close and Valuev has benefitted from similar decisions in the past, so I'm not crying about it. But it wasn't a great performance by Haye at all. Running for 11 rounds and fighting a little at the end? He has been a very mediocre heavyweight, and all he has proven so far is that he should have stayed at cruiser.

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        #33
        Originally posted by ChopperRead
        Would you call Jim Watt at Sky Sports a "bitter American?" He had Valuev winning and I agree with him. It was close and Valuev has benefitted from similar decisions in the past, so I'm not crying about it. But it wasn't a great performance by Haye at all. Running for 11 rounds and fighting a little at the end? He has been a very mediocre heavyweight, and all he has proven so far is that he should have stayed at cruiser.
        It was certenley not impressing, I'll give you that. But he won and deservedley so.

        Answer me this, why give rounds to Valuev for missing with almost everything he threw and getting outboxed and outskilled for the whole fight? I'd really like to know how you think, yes he was the aggressor and always came forward but so was Carl Froch in the Dirrell fight... yet you and most likely all other americans scored that fight for Dirrell for doing basicly the same thing as David Haye did. both "runned" yeah but they both also outboxed, outskilled and outclassed their opponents.

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        • brooki28
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          #34
          boring boring snore snore haye is not fit to lace lennox's boots with all his **** talk bull****

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          • ChopperRead
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            #35
            Originally posted by vanillacoke
            It was certenley not impressing, I'll give you that. But he won and deservedley so.

            Answer me this, why give rounds to Valuev for missing with almost everything he threw and getting outboxed and outskilled for the whole fight? I'd really like to know how you think, yes he was the aggressor and always came forward but so was Carl Froch in the Dirrell fight... yet you and most likely all other americans scored that fight for Dirrell for doing basicly the same thing as David Haye did. both "runned" yeah but they both also outboxed, outskilled and outclassed their opponents.
            For the record, I had Froch winning the fight with Dirrell. I like Froch. You make too many generalizations about what "Americans" think.

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