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I agree with pretty much everything, Pac does not have KO power now he didn't have at lower weights, at lower weights he put people down with one shot plenty. When has he done that at 130+ except for Hatton, where he just landed a perfect shot? Just look at what he rehydrated to when he was at 130, the guy was a welterweight when he stepped in the ring. An argument is often made to look at the muscle definition now, but wouldn't it make sense that if Pac doesn't have to spend as much time cutting to make an uncomfortable weight he can spend more time on toning muscle? That also explains why he can take shots at higher weights.
Really, there was never anything except Mayweather Sr. running off at the mouth, and somehow that has made this a legit issue. There is nothing about Pacquiao's success that can't be explained easily without PEDs. It isn't out of the question, no one should be surprised about anyone being busted for PEDs anymore, but until there is something more than the Mayweathers being jealous and talking, I have no reason to suspect Pac of anything.Comment
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OK, I broke down and read most of your thread and I can say I agree with you on a lot of that. There is no "definite" reason why anyone should suspect Manny is taking steroids. But his great performances as he has moved up in weight could possibly lead some to become su****ious. Everyone needs to understand that we all don't see everything in the same light. Some people are more su****ious of steroid use than others. Some people don't think of it at all. I didn't really think much about it until all this crap. If Manny had just agreed, nothing much probably would have been said about the testing. Well, maybe so because of the allegations Floyd Sr. made. But, if it wasn't for him, it might not have been discussed at all if Manny agreed. We would have said that was odd that Floyd asked for that but there wouldn't have been any huge complaints. I feel it's more of Manny's fault for making such a big deal out of this. There are no rules stating you can't ask for Olympic style drug testing, so why can't Floyd ask? Its already been pointed out that random testing blood & urine is more fool proof than any other way. Why not ask for the best fool proof way if you suspect your opponent of using steroids? Asking for additional testing isn't common but it isn't unheard of. And even if it was unheard of, why can't it be implemented, especially in this day and age of steroid use? Yeah it sucks that Floyd brought it up, but he has a right to ask for it. Its his life he's putting on the line every time he steps into the ring. Who are we to tell him he can't ask for his opponent to be tested the way he wants? Manny made a big mistake by refusing because now he looks like he has something to hide. These guys are nearly or are world figures. Its a whole different story when they are accused of roiding than if me and you were accused of it. Its even magnified ten times because Manny is making boxing history. There are going to be a lot of people that suspect him now that he has refused to take the tests. It doesn't matter why, all people know is he refused to take the tests. To avoid all that crap, he should have just taken the test to prove to the people he was clean. He doesn't have to but it would have cleared his name, he would have made 30+ Million dollars, and he would have had the chance to prove to the world he is in fact the #1 P4P fighter in the world. Of course not everyone wants to look at it like this, but this is the most logical way to look at it because Manny wouldn't have had the problems he has now. If anyone thinks he has no problems now because of his decision, they are sadly mistaking.Comment
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Look, I am not denying the fact that him not taking the blood tests is su****ious. It is.
And a proud 7 time-world champion Manny either
a.) refuses to be accused of something so unfounded/insulting or
b.) is taking steroids
But to start this all was baseless. Ridiculous, really. But now because of Sr.'s rants we have this issue.
The thing about this is, though, is that there is no doubt Pacquiao/Mayweather will fight. (I don't know why but I still think there's too much money for it not to happen. If anything, Manny could pull a Ray Leonard and not have the fight happen for awhile they way Leonard did to Hagler.) When it does happen, I don't know how it will be resolved. Will Manny bend and take the blood tests? Or will Mayweather bend and let Manny not take more than 3 tests, forever raising speculation towards Pacquiao's steroid use and giving him an excuse to hide behind if he does lose. It seems more likely that the latter is to happen, but I really do hope Manny gets his head out of his ass and takes the tests. People in this world aren't as naive as Manny think they are, most are skeptical when given reason to be. He's not innocent until proven guilty, he's guilty until proven innocent. Prove yourself innocent, Manny.
For his own sake, I hope he does some random blood testing against a lesser opponent that he fights in the future. Maybe even Clottey. Get used to it. Get over it. Be ready to fight Mayweather.Comment
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