Pacquiao: Hate or Racism?

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    #71
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    But, you know some them only know 1 fighter. But, the people who bash Pac for catch-weights know boxing, know the history, know that Pac did not created that. and, that is what I don't get cuz they really know is not true. You know when you se Peyk Peyk, Pacdbest and some othere they know ****. But, focus on the knowledgeable ones.
    Naw Hopkins is the Catch Weight king...The catch weight stuff isnt even my beef with the guy.

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      #72
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      A lot of people on here are making out to seem as Pac whole career now is going to be catch-weight fights. Just because he had one catch-weight fight. He had the same amount of catch-weight fights as Marquez, Chavez, Trinidad, WHitaker, Mayweather Jr, and Roy Jones.

      Even if Pac has one more catch-weight fight he would have the same amount as Oscar, Pavlik, and Malignaggi.

      Hopkins has more catch-weight fights than any other active fighter.

      There are even more examples. But, why all of a sudden Pac has one catch-weight fight it became a sin? All of a sudden his whole career will be catch-weight fights. People act like he made this whole catch-weight fights up. When in fact it has been going on for years. But, why do people act this way when Pac does it? Is it racism? If you look at what is different from him and the other fighters who has done it is that he is Asian. The only Asian fighter out of the bunch. And, he gets criticized the most for doing it...

      Is the conclusion racism? Or can anybody else explain to me on why he gets singled out?
      roy jones had a catch-weight fight?

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        #73
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        When have I said Floyd is picking on Pac? I have been on record plenty of times saying is a 50-50 fight maybe 60-40 in Floyd favor.

        I have also had debates that if Pac is at WW and P-Will is at WW then they should fight.
        I know, I'm just messing with yah bro. But certainly has been brought up, there is a big double standard here.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Soir
          I read the articles leading up to Pac Cotto and Cotto did not want to put his belt on the line for a catch-weight fight. But Magically, a few days later he accepts. Its fishy as hell whats going on behind the scenes at Top Rank. The Welterweight champ should call his own shots and should be allowed to weigh the number that is written on the belt.

          Pacquiao cried to the teacher and got his way. This whining behavior is why people are starting to turn on him.
          Whitaker was the champ and Chavez called the shots. They fought in San Antonio because King wanted it there. They fought at a catch-weight at 145 again just like Pac-Cotto and fougth for the lineal belt. Pac was not the first to do this...

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            #75
            Originally posted by tehMatrix
            roy jones had a catch-weight fight?
            yea against Tito...

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              #76
              Originally posted by Adrian 28
              Naw Hopkins is the Catch Weight king...The catch weight stuff isnt even my beef with the guy.
              Hey then this thread is not really for you. This thread is for the ones who have beef with Pac and catch-weight. Because some of them act like nobody has done it before.

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                #77
                The huge amount of hate he gets is all because of the equal amount of love he gets. It's like people can't stand someone getting too much of one thing so they have to balance it out by saying the polar opposite

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  A lot of people on here are making out to seem as Pac whole career now is going to be catch-weight fights. Just because he had one catch-weight fight. He had the same amount of catch-weight

                  fights as Marquez, Chavez, Trinidad, WHitaker, Mayweather Jr, and Roy Jones.

                  Even if Pac has one more catch-weight fight he would have the same amount as Oscar, Pavlik, and Malignaggi.


                  Hopkins has more catch-weight fights than any other active fighter.


                  There are even more examples. But, why all of a sudden Pac has one catch-weight fight it became a sin? All of a sudden his whole career will be catch-

                  weight fights. People act like he made this whole catch-weight fights up. When


                  in fact it has been going on for years. But, why do people act this way when
                  Pac does it? Is it racism? If you look at what is different from him and the
                  other fighters who has done it is that he is Asian. The only Asian fighter out of
                  the bunch. And, he gets criticized the most for doing it...



                  Is the conclusion racism? Or can anybody else explain to me on why he gets
                  singled out?
                  Its not race or hate for me, I enjoy Pac. I'm a Floyd fan but more a boxing fan.
                  The only question is why won't Pac just take the test. I've seen interviews where Freddy says they asked him for Olympic testing, he said ok whatever they want.
                  Now it's all these reasons not to test. It just seems fishy to most who've been whatching this whole thing.

                  The Pinoy people bring race up from what I see. They say things like "you people can't stand that a lil" Asian" is on top"
                  That to me (as a Black man) is not called for.
                  We all know ignorance lives, so why open that can of worms?

                  I don't hate Pac but I just think it's a question there that needs answering.
                  His fans are really to blame tho. They ignor facts, they deflect points as they are made. It's like Pac can do no wrong. They argue with no knowlege of this sport outside of Pac and Floyd, trying to out do guys who know this sport well.

                  It gets a little annoying really. Seems they don't even face that Pacs team has messed this up for him.
                  A law suit will not clear his name

                  PAC fans just need to calm down, there are so many others in this sport. Get to know them, not just PAC and Floyd.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by cixthree
                    Its not race or hate for me, I enjoy Pac. I'm a Floyd fan but more a boxing fan.
                    The only question is why won't Pac just take the test. I've seen interviews where Freddy says they asked him for Olympic testing, he said ok whatever they want.
                    Now it's all these reasons not to test. It just seems fishy to most who've been whatching this whole thing.

                    The Pinoy people bring race up from what I see. They say things like "you people can't stand that a lil" Asian" is on top"
                    That to me (as a Black man) is not called for.
                    We all know ignorance lives, so why open that can of worms?

                    I don't hate Pac but I just think it's a question there that needs answering.
                    His fans are really to blame tho. They ignor facts, they deflect points as they are made. It's like Pac can do no wrong. They argue with no knowlege of this sport outside of Pac and Floyd, trying to out do guys who know this sport well.

                    It gets a little annoying really. Seems they don't even face that Pacs team has messed this up for him.
                    A law suit will not clear his name

                    PAC fans just need to calm down, there are so many others in this sport. Get to know them, not just PAC and Floyd.
                    Are all these Pinoy PAC fans in GENERAL?

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                      #80
                      Its both.

                      what I find comical is all the Mayweather fans who call Pac "catchweight Manny" yet conveniently ignore the fact that:

                      A. Floyd made Hatton come up from 140 to 147
                      B. Floyd made Marquez come up from 135 to 144 and actually WANTED the fight at 147.

                      It's Floyd who's put his recent opponents at a bigger disadvantage, but they aren't crying about it AND HE WAS FAVORED IN BOTH OF THEM INITIALLY where as Pac was the underdog.

                      The circumstances of those fights are irrelevant as Mayweather fans make the circumstances of Pac's fight irrelevant.

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