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  • bareg
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    #11
    Originally posted by Adrian 28
    He tried to fight Pac. Its the biggest money fight.

    He offered Pac a 14 day cut off.

    Thats more then fair man...he didnt duck Pac.
    i didn't say he did. but he came back for paychecks right? and like i said, pac has the least chance to beat him, and he doesn't have to face mosley if he beats pac.

    that blood testing just got messed up.

    i just wonder, he doesn't need to doubt pacman if he was the same as his 2007 version. like i said, 2009 version of pacman (whether you believe he is on roids or not) can get beat by mayweather of 2007. its not like manny was p4p #1 because he can beat mayweather. he captivated the imagination of boxing fans by taking on bigger men and knocking them out and taking the best possible opposition.

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    • jpunieves
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      #12
      i think the issue is not the 5-14-24 day cutoff...

      the issue is why the hell would you ask a testing procedure that was not in place before?

      or the issue was berto-mosley does not have that kind of testing?

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      • fugu
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        #13
        Originally posted by badboypeenoy
        If only Mayweather could be easy to deal with like Clottey or Cotto, this fight would happen in a heartbeat. Pac-Cotto, Pac-Clottey got made, why can't Pac-Mayweather?). I cannot blame Mayweather, his legacy rests on his being undefeated...with a smear on his record he becomes ordinary.

        Unless Mayweather fights a REAL welter with serious pop, he's *****.
        Mayweather vs Hatton = deal done quickly with no problems.
        Pacquiao vs Hatton = deal almost collapsed several times.

        Pacquiao vs Mayweather = Pacquiao makes several demands, all which gets OK including a never before seen 10m $ penalty per pound over the weight. Floyd makes 1 significant demand, which he also meets Pacquiao halfway.
        Pacquiao refuses.

        Hmm.. I see a trend here.

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        • fugu
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          #14
          Originally posted by jpunieves
          i think the issue is not the 5-14-24 day cutoff...

          the issue is why the hell would you ask a testing procedure that was not in place before?

          or the issue was berto-mosley does not have that kind of testing?
          So the problem is that a fight that has been negotiated and finalized before didnt have the same demand?

          Oh, that must be it.

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          • jpunieves
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            #15
            why didn't fraud asked JMM for a blood test or suspect anything of JMM having steroid?

            oh... she won't. because JMM already bulked up in size for her.

            didn't she thought of the piss JMM drank also contained cycled-off drugs?

            tsktsk

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            • bareg
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              #16
              Originally posted by P4P305
              Team Pacquiao hints that they had little interest of fighting Floyd this soon. They came up with these excuses, instead of coming straight forward to admit that they would needed more times.
              yes. i'd understand if they don't want to fight pac. but pac is hinting on retirement soon which is why win or lose against floyd, his legacy is set.

              but like i said, floyd will take this fight in a heartbeat unless he isn't confident enough.

              we all know that the blood testing issues just went out of hand. i don't think its about the excuses, its about who bends down for the other and neither one don't want to. that's why i blame both.

              i don't seriously believe that floyd believes pac is on roids. that's just a way to get under his skin and it did. but got out of hand because of issued press statements...

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              • Slimey Limey
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                #17
                Floyd is not made out of paper. Some injuries in years in a sport like boxing is not gonna turn him old overnight. What turns you old overnight in boxing are brutal beating, not taking care of your body, staying out of shape, ****ed up weight routines etc.

                Floyd has done none of that. He is the youngest 33 year old in boxing. He has never taken a beating, he uses his boxing skills more than his physical attributes so he can rely on it later on in his career, in his layoff he let his body heal and still stayed in shape, his life style prolongs his boxing career etc. I could go on. He's not going to be beatable up untill his late 30s.

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                • ThunderWolf
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by fugu
                  Pacquiao vs Mayweather = Pacquiao makes several demands, all which gets OK including a never before seen 10m $ penalty per pound over the weight. Floyd makes 1 significant demand, which he also meets Pacquiao halfway.
                  Pacquiao refuses.

                  Hmm.. I see a trend here.
                  The basic trend or point is, it will not be a welterweight title clash if the weight exceeds 147.

                  PBF could easily fight as light-heavyweight, what controls would stop him from doing it just to win? Yet Pacquiao will still have to fight PBF for the sake of the fans, get it?

                  So if PBF weighed 146 against JMM just months before, such penalties are of no issue.

                  It was actually Pac who agreed to 147 and not catch weight, as demanded by PBF.
                  Last edited by ThunderWolf; 01-11-2010, 06:34 AM.

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                  • fugu
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jpunieves
                    why didn't fraud asked JMM for a blood test or suspect anything of JMM having steroid?

                    oh... she won't. because JMM already bulked up in size for her.

                    didn't she thought of the piss JMM drank also contained cycled-off drugs?

                    tsktsk
                    Better question. What is pacquiao hiding?

                    Maybe Mayweather is on to something here.

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                    • fugu
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ThunderWolf
                      The basic trend or point is, it will not be a welterweight title clash if the weight exceeds 147.

                      PBF could easily fight as light-heavyweight, what controls would stop him from doing it just to win? Yet Pacquiao will still have to fight PBF for the sake of the fans, get it?

                      So if PBF weighed 146 against JMM just months before, such penalties are of no issue.
                      And if Pacquiao is clean. Such tests are of no issue.

                      Suggesting Floyd would weigh in as a light heavyweight is silly and not even worth responding to.

                      Floyd has never missed weight in a welterweight fight.
                      He missed weights in a catchweight fight, and he paid the demanded price for it.

                      There were never demands on anything less than 147lbs.

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