*Video* Joe Goosen; "I would be insulted too"

[Akinapepemo]

goosen is just bitter that fraudulent jr. beat his fighter diego corrales. its clear that he is biased.

I heard somewhere Goosen is 1/48th filipino, he doesn't know **** about boxing, just a *******.

[V.WEBB]

Who is asking for a test never done before in the history of professional boxing?


This fight would have been signed, sealed, delivered, stevie wonder style if fraudulent mayweather jr. agreed to the same testing he has done all of his 40 victories.


Who is being teh p*ssy here?

to be completely fair bro, Tyson actually asked Evander to take test for steroids, or he would NOT fight him.

From the book "The Holyfield Way"

"There was a prior hint of this defeatist attitude a few weeks earlier when Marc Ratner, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, called to tell me that Tyson would not fight Evander, unless he took a steroid test. This did not bother me at all, because I knew with certainty from many talks with Evander on this topic, that he had never used steroids. Evander told me some people urged him to use steroids, especially when moving up to the heavyweight division. Evander always refused for one reason: he would never have known whether he could have done it without the steroids. I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt. On the other hand, Tyson had no propable cause to request such a test and absolutely no right to require one as a condition for the fight going forward. I discussed this with Evander, who came up with a brillant solution. He said that he would take the test provided that the results would not be revealed to Tyson, until after the fight"

Holyfield-"I laughed when Tyson was demanding that I take a steroid test. I saw Tyson's look when he saw me with my shirt off at the weigh- in for the last fight. He couldn't believe how big and muscular I had become from how hard I trained. I knew he must have convinced himself that I had won the fight cheating somehow, because he couldn't face the fact that I was just stronger than him. I was happy to take a steroid test, because I have never used steroids in my life, but I didn't want Tyson to have comfort of knowing that I was not using steroids. I wanted Tyson to continue to think that I had an unfair advantage over him so he would give himself an excuse for losing again."

Take the above from Evander's book for what its worth. I think we can kind of see both sides of the coin with these statements.

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[AKATheMack]

to be completely fair bro, Tyson actually asked Evander to take test for steroids, or he would NOT fight him.

From the book "The Holyfield Way"



Take the above from Evander's book for what its worth. I think we can kind of see both sides of the coin with these statements.

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That is brilliant. Holyfield is a G.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

to be completely fair bro, Tyson actually asked Evander to take test for steroids, or he would NOT fight him.

From the book "The Holyfield Way"



Take the above from Evander's book for what its worth. I think we can kind of see both sides of the coin with these statements.

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you made my argument for me webb.

[V.WEBB]

you made my argument for me webb.

dude, I posted it show you that this kind of thing has been done before. So don't complain and say that hasn't been done. As I said, you can see both stances with what was said in that excerpt from the book that I quoted. So, this been done before and Evander did not have to do it, but he did.

Both sides of the coin are seen with what I posted.

also, notice how it says that Evander knew that refusal would be looked at as being guilty. But Evander had that brilliant idea to keep the results sealed until after the fight.

[thatnickuh]

Who is asking for a test never done before in the history of professional boxing?

Mayweather is, and he's asking for it because he suspects that Pacquiao may be using something that can't be detected by the current drug testing system. Why is that so hard for people like you to understand? Whether you think that Pacquiao is clean or not, there's a possibility that he isn't clean. If you understand that there's a possibility that he's not clean, then why are you faulting Mayweather for taking steps to ensure that he will be clean when they meet in the ring?

Here's a question for you. Who is asking for some insane overweight clause that has never been asked for in the history of professional boxing? They both have made specific demands that have never been asked for before, yet you only want to criticize Mayweather. You people don't even try to be fair and objective. It's sad.

fight would have been signed, sealed, delivered, stevie wonder style if fraudulent mayweather jr. agreed to the same testing he has done all of his 40 victories.
Who is being teh p*ssy here?

Save all the name calling and disrespect man, it just exposes you as being unreasonable and irrational. I don't like that Pacquiao won't agree to the stricter testing, nor do I appreciate all the lies and silly excuses he has given for not agreeing to the testing, but I don't need to insult or disrespect the man. You people have a personal problem with the Mayweathers and I'm starting to get the feeling that it's race related.

The fight would be signed if Pacquiao and his team stood by their word. They initially agreed to the testing and said that they had no problem complying. Their story has changed countless times since then though, and you ignore that. Mayweather feels that Pacquiao may be using PEDs and he has every right to request testing that would help ensure that he will get a clean fight. As a boxing fan, I have absolutely no problem with that. If Pacquiao is clean and really wants the fight, then he should have no problem with it either. The excuses he's given for not complying to the stricter testing don't hold weight, and they just make him look he has something to hide. Whether he's refusing the tests because he's dirty and doesn't want to be caught, or just plain scard of Mayweather. It's clear that he doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

dude, I posted it show you that this kind of thing has been done before. So don't complain and say that hasn't been done. As I said, you can see both stances with what was said in that excerpt from the book that I quoted. So, this been done before and Evander did not have to do it, but he did.

Both sides of the coin are seen with what I posted.

also, notice how it says that Evander knew that refusal would be looked at as being guilty. But Evander had that brilliant idea to keep the results sealed until after the fight.

& where did they fight webb? las vegas right?

has pac ever failed a las vegas commission test?

Mayweather is, and he's asking for it because he suspects that Pacquiao may be using something that can't be detected by the current drug testing system. Why is that so hard for people like you to understand? Whether you think that Pacquiao is clean or not, there's a possibility that he isn't clean. If you understand that there's a possibility that he's not clean, then why are you faulting Mayweather for taking steps to ensure that he will be clean when they meet in the ring?

Here's a question for you. Who is asking for some insane overweight clause that has never been asked for in the history of professional boxing? They both have made specific demands that have never been asked for before, yet you only want to criticize Mayweather. You people don't even try to be fair and objective. It's sad.


Save all the name calling and disrespect man, it just exposes you as being an unreasonable irrational clown. I don't like that Pacquiao won't agree to the stricter testing, nor do I appreciate all the lies and silly excuses he has given for not agreeing to the testing, but I don't need to insult or disrespect the man. You people have a personal problem with the Mayweathers and I'm starting to get the feeling that it's race related.

The fight would be signed if Pacquiao and his team stood by their word. They initially agreed to the testing and said that they had no problem complying. Their story has changed countless times since then though, and you ignore that. Mayweather feels that Pacquiao may be using PEDs and he has every right to request testing that would help ensure that he will get a clean fight. As a boxing fan, I have absolutely no problem with that. If Pacquiao is clean and really wants the fight, then he should have no problem with it either. The excuses he's given for not complying to the stricter testing don't hold weight, and they just make him look he has something to hide. Whether he's refusing the tests because he's dirty and doesn't want to be caught, or just plain scard of Mayweather. It's clear that he doesn't want to fight Mayweather.

when did pac refuse the blood test? Didnt he agree to 3 blood tests? first in the press conference, now to 24 days & after the fight.

When did mayweather become the rule maker & dictate which test fighters take?

when did mayweather become the boxing commission in vegas?

[V.WEBB]

& where did they fight webb? las vegas right?

has pac ever failed a las vegas commission test?

Yes, they fought in Nevada.

Did Evander ever fail one in Las Vegas prior to his fight with Tyson?

I'm trying to get you to see that this whole thing has been done BEFORE brah..you can't deny that.

[thatnickuh]

when did pac refuse the blood test? Didnt he agree to 3 blood tests? first in the press conference, now to 24 days & after the fight.

Team Pacquiao has flip flopped all over the place concerning what he will and will not agree to. The proof is littered all over this site. What is your problem, can you not read?

did mayweather become the rule maker & dictate which test fighters take?

when did mayweather become the boxing commission in vegas?

When did Pacquiao become the rule maker who dictates that a fighter must pay 10 million dollars for every pound that he's overweight? When did Pacquiao gain the power to force the champion of a division to fight at a catch-weight for his own title? You don't have a problem with any of those specific demands now do you? "Rules" are negotiated on a fight by fight basis, and it's always been like that in boxing. You are really showing your ignorance man. You should be embarrassed.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Yes, they fought in Nevada.

Did Evander ever fail one in Las Vegas prior to his fight with Tyson?

I'm trying to get you to see that this whole thing has been done BEFORE brah..you can't deny that.

So USADA style testing has been done before in professional boxing? Is that what holyfield took?

Team Pacquiao has flip flopped all over the place concerning what he will and will not agree to. The proof is littered all over this site. What is your problem, can you not read?

When did Pacquiao become the rule maker who dictates that a fighter must pay 10 million dollars for every pound that he's overweight? When did Pacquiao gain the power to force the champion of a division to fight at a catch-weight for his own title? You don't have a problem with any of those specific demands now do you? "Rules" are negotiated on a fight by fight basis, and it's always been like that in boxing. You are really showing your ignorance man. You should be embarrassed.

1. In fraudlent jr.'s last fight he came in overweight. that's why that 10 million a pound over the weight is in play.

2. Pacquiao never tested positive for steroids, has no connections to steroid use or pushers. That's why the extra steroid test is insulting.

3. Chavez sr. vs pernell whitaker for sweet pea's welter title @ 145 lbs.
Oscar vs Hopkins at 156 for hopkin's middle title
Ray leonard vs danny lalonde at 168 for super middle & light heavy title
Ray Leonard vs tommy hearns at163 for super middle title
Terry Norris vs meldrick taylor at 150 for junior middle title.