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  • Ballllin
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    #81
    LMAo this whole thread is just comedy

    now mayweather is cheating but doest care about doing RANDOM TESTS

    but the supposed non cheater WILL NOT

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    • Ballllin
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      #82
      Originally posted by DarthVoid
      did his previous fights involve unlimited random urine tests?

      again, floyd's lidocaine use is not just a rumor. it's a fact.



      claiming one uses lidocaine for an injury is not a good defense at all.

      see golota.

      nope. pac is not amenable to random blood tests. why should he be? blood tests do not show if a fighter used lidocaine.

      Olympic Tests Have Never Detected HGH in an Athlete: USADA Backs Urine
      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...da-backs-urine
      then why is pac so afraid to do them????

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      • deuce_drop
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        #83
        Originally posted by Imhotep
        Floyd is willing to take a random test to Prove he`s not on anything what is Pac doing?Making excuses.


        If Floyd took the Shot its cause of a injury not to cheat like Pac is doing.
        where is your proof pacquiao is cheating, i need physical evidence to believe it, it has to be proven without a shadow of doubt. bottom line is, there is none, there is no one testifying against pacquiao, there is no roid dealer coming forth, no one in his camp or otherwise coming out saying he's on something, only floyd, gbp's, and floyds team, all of which, again, have zero evidence. not to mention jealousy from all his accusers.
        just for starters.....

        and floyd takes those shots to prevent injury and to prevent pain inside the ring, if that isnt a PED i don't know what is!

        floyd and his peoples accused pacquiao way before the blood test demands, which in my POV, if i was manny i would say " piss off " they have no evidence, and then demand i take a test, which isnt in the scope of the commission!?!! all the while out publicly bashing, defaming me, discrediting, and marginalizing my career achievements!!?!?!? bet your sweet ass i wouldn't agree to anything floyd demands, he's already caused enough hassle in my life ( in pacquiao's perspective ) now have to go through this, when it's floyd who needs the paycheck more than I ( manny p ).

        had the test been a part of the negotiation process without accusing and slandering pacquiao FIRST, then the fight would've been signed.

        it's the accusation without evidence, coupled with the demands of extra blood testing that made this fight fall through.

        if manny refused to take the test before he was accused and basically being forced into it, it would be a whole different story.

        then you could say what is he hiding? why not? and all the other questions everyone is lobbing out at pacquiao, but since he was blamed and made out to be a cheat before with no evidence, this whole thing is a *** job....... and it's floyd's sides fault, they jumped the gun.

        they didn't even see if pacquiao would take a test first, they accused him of cheating then demanded the test............... wrong order of doing things.

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        • DarthVoid
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          #84
          Originally posted by Ballllin
          then why is pac so afraid to do them????
          why should he undergo blood tests???

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          • letsgobrady
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            #85
            Originally posted by DarthVoid
            did his previous fights involve unlimited random urine tests?

            again, floyd's lidocaine use is not just a rumor. it's a fact.



            claiming one uses lidocaine for an injury is not a good defense at all.

            see golota.

            nope. pac is not amenable to random blood tests. why should he be? blood tests do not show if a fighter used lidocaine.

            Olympic Tests Have Never Detected HGH in an Athlete: USADA Backs Urine
            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...da-backs-urine
            it is a fact and bein that it's a fact and everyone knows if he was doin something illegal he would have somehow been penalized but he hasnt so he was not doin anything wrong and floyd said since he's been with garcia his hands r fine so we don't know if he is still usin the painkillers

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            • Akinapepemo
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              #86
              Originally posted by letsgobrady
              pain killers don't enhance your performance it just lets u perform,u don't hit harder if u inject pain killers if anything the painkillers r a bad thing because if u break your hand u won't feel it
              Let's see you box as calm as Floyd does when you start to get hit.
              Let's see you try to drive for 50 laps when you have neck pains.

              Discomfort.
              Pain threshold.

              Those are concepts that are in play here.
              Pain killers enhance your performance, period.

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              • DarthVoid
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                #87
                Originally posted by deuce_drop
                where is your proof pacquiao is cheating, i need physical evidence to believe it, it has to be proven without a shadow of doubt. bottom line is, there is none, there is no one testifying against pacquiao, there is no roid dealer coming forth, no one in his camp or otherwise coming out saying he's on something, only floyd, gbp's, and floyds team, all of which, again, have zero evidence. not to mention jealousy from all his accusers.
                just for starters.....

                and floyd takes those shots to prevent injury and to prevent pain inside the ring, if that isnt a PED i don't know what is!

                floyd and his peoples accused pacquiao way before the blood test demands, which in my POV, if i was manny i would say " piss off " they have no evidence, and then demand i take a test, which isnt in the scope of the commission!?!! all the while out publicly bashing, defaming me, discrediting, and marginalizing my career achievements!!?!?!? bet your sweet ass i wouldn't agree to anything floyd demands, he's already caused enough hassle in my life ( in pacquiao's perspective ) now have to go through this, when it's floyd who needs the paycheck more than I ( manny p ).

                had the test been a part of the negotiation process without accusing and slandering pacquiao FIRST, then the fight would've been signed.

                it's the accusation without evidence, coupled with the demands of extra blood testing that made this fight fall through.

                if manny refused to take the test before he was accused and basically being forced into it, it would be a whole different story.

                then you could say what is he hiding? why not? and all the other questions everyone is lobbing out at pacquiao, but since he was blamed and made out to be a cheat before with no evidence, this whole thing is a *** job....... and it's floyd's sides fault, they jumped the gun.

                they didn't even see if pacquiao would take a test first, they accused him of cheating then demanded the test............... wrong order of doing things.
                exactly, man. exactly.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Akinapepemo
                  Let's see you box as calm as Floyd does when you start to get hit.
                  Let's see you try to drive for 50 laps when you have neck pains.

                  Discomfort.
                  Pain threshold.

                  Those are concepts that are in play here.
                  Pain killers enhance your performance, period.
                  Performance-enhancing drugs

                  Types of performance-enhancing drugs
                  Although the phrase performance-enhancing drugs is typically used in reference to anabolic steroids or their precursors, world anti-doping organizations apply the term broadly. The phrase has been used to refer to several distinct classes of drugs:

                  * Lean mass builders are used to drive or amplify the growth of muscle and lean body mass, and sometimes to reduce body fat. This class of drugs includes anabolic steroids, beta-2 agonists, selective androgen receptor modulator SARMs and various human hormones, most notably human growth hormone, as well as some of their precursors.
                  * Stimulants are used by athletes to stimulate their bodies and perform at optimum level, usually to increase alertness, decrease fatigue, and/or increase aggressiveness. Examples include caffeine and amphetamines.
                  * Painkillers mask athletes' pain so they can continue to compete and perform beyond their usual pain thresholds. Blood pressure is increased causing the cells in the muscles to be better supplied with vital oxygen. Painkillers used by athletes range from common over-the-counter medicines such as NSAIDs (like ibuprofen and acetaminophen) to powerful prescription narcotics.
                  * Sedatives are sometimes used by athletes in sports like archery which require steady hands and precise aim, and also by athletes attempting to overcome excessive nervousness or discomfort. Alcohol, beta blockers, and marijuana are examples.
                  * Diuretics expel water from athletes' bodies. They are often used by athletes such as wrestlers, who need to meet weight restrictions. Many stimulants also have a secondary diuretic effect.
                  * Masking drugs are used to prevent the detection of other classes of drugs. These evolve as quickly as do testing methods - which is very quickly indeed[1] - although a time-tested classic example is the use of epitestosterone, a drug with no performance-enhancing effects, to restore the testosterone/epitestosterone ratio (a common criterion in steroid testing) to normal levels after anabolic steroid supplementation.

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                  • letsgobrady
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Akinapepemo
                    Let's see you box as calm as Floyd does when you start to get hit.
                    Let's see you try to drive for 50 laps when you have neck pains.

                    Discomfort.
                    Pain threshold.

                    Those are concepts that are in play here.
                    Pain killers enhance your performance, period.
                    ****** u can still injur your hands while on the painkillers and if u break your hand u may not feel it and u will contiue to use that hand and that will make the injury to your hand much worst so yea u may be able to fight that fight but after that your career may be over because you didn't feel the pain in your hand and injured it to the point where u can't fight anymore

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                    • Ballllin
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                      #90
                      ok ok ok lmao fine

                      so

                      we can have random URINE tests for mayweather and random blood for pac



                      I do remember seeing mayweather inject something in his hands i think on the ricky hatton 24/7 what was the deal on that...????





                      But at the end of all of this we still have pacman holding this fight up not floyd

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