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  • Andrew Cuff V2
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    #21
    Originally posted by Counter right
    It goes both ways. 122 was a red hot division until Izzy-Rafa declined and Juanma moved up etc and it was great before that with Morales and Barrera. Was it that good ever before that? nope.
    Wilfredo Gomez?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Andrew Cuff V2
      If Cotto could outbox Mosley, Hearns certainly could.

      He had too many advantages. Go and watch some of his fights before making such comments!
      a 36 year old mosley is defienetly a prime mobile mosley isn't it?
      mosley even now at 38 is fighter top competition, and not just that, men that are 10+ younger than him
      prime mosley is fast and ferocious and will bomb you, tommy hearns barely had defence, that whole ''keep him at a distance with my jab'' **** would'nt have worked for long

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        #23
        Originally posted by tehMatrix
        a 36 year old mosley is defienetly a prime mobile mosley isn't it?
        mosley even now at 38 is fighter top competition, and not just that, men that are 10+ younger than him
        prime mosley is fast and ferocious and will bomb you, tommy hearns barely had defence, that whole ''keep him at a distance with my jab'' **** would'nt have worked for long
        No he isn't.

        If Forrest could flatten Mosley, why wouldn't Hearns. He hit harder and faster.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Andrew Cuff V2
          Wilfredo Gomez?
          It had Gomez, Pintor and Zarate yeah, But Izzy-Rafa produced 3 great fights, Juanma was an upcoming champ, Caballero was/is a titlist, and a few years before that Morales and Barrera were titlists there.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Counter right
            It had Gomez, Pintor and Zarate yeah, But Izzy-Rafa produced 3 great fights, Juanma was an upcoming champ, Caballero was/is a titlist, and a few years before that Morales and Barrera were titlists there.
            Yes, but Gomez, Pintor and Zarate are greater than Juanma and Caballero!!

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              #26
              Originally posted by Andrew Cuff V2
              No he isn't.

              If Forrest could flatten Mosley, why wouldn't Hearns. He hit harder and faster.
              Mosley could be dangerous for Hearns. Hearns would outbox him, but Shane is fitter and has the power to knock Hearns out, and he would keep coming and have a strong chance of scoring a late KO

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                #27
                Originally posted by Andrew Cuff V2
                Yes, but Gomez, Pintor and Zarate are greater than Juanma and Caballero!!
                Funny how you select the two worst fighters out of the ones I mentioned.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Andrew Cuff V2
                  1. Yes I did pick Pavlik as an example of how **** MW is. It certainly wasn't before! Robinson, Monzon, Hagler, Nunn, Toney, McCallum, Hopkins, Jones etc etc.

                  2. There is a big divide between those fighters and todays. Pacquaio and Mayweather are the obvious standouts, but these aren't career WWs are they? Floyd is yet to face an elite fighter at the weight and one fight for Pacquiao against top competition does not make him the new SRL! Leonard, Hearns, Duran > Cotto, Margarito , Williams in terms of resume and skill.
                  Duran wasn't a career WW either. Regardless, if they are fighting there, they are WW's.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Counter right
                    Mosley could be dangerous for Hearns. Hearns would outbox him, but Shane is fitter and has the power to knock Hearns out, and he would keep coming and have a strong chance of scoring a late KO
                    Yes, he could be dangerous. I acknowledged that, but the other poster acted as if Mosley was odds on to win.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Counter right
                      Duran wasn't a career WW either. Regardless, if they are fighting there, they are WW's.
                      Duran fought more elite competition than either of the other two though.

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