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  • legend
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    #11
    Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
    I'll bet 17 million points that Toney will beat Vitali.
    If I ever get to 17 million, I'll bet you the whole thing. Admittedly, VK has faced some poor competition as of late, but he dominated all of them. You say Toney will beat him on the body, but yet you failed to give a reason why Toney would even be able to get that close. VK by KO inside of 6, just like Danny Williams.

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    • !! Anorak
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      #12
      I still don't know if we saw anything from Toney tonight that would show that he has a serious future against those guys. Though I'm a Toney novice here, he doesn't get shown in Limeyland that often. Hell, I had to stream him tonight. And that belly took a lot of streaming.

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      • ottoevans
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        #13
        Toney couldnt KO Booker nor Jirov how would he hurt Vitali??? Vitali is the hardest puncher in the division. He had Danny Williams dancing the 1st round from punches that looked like he barely touched him

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        • !! Anorak
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          #14
          Originally posted by ottoevans
          Toney couldnt KO Booker nor Jirov how would he hurt Vitali??? Vitali is the hardest puncher in the division. He had Danny Williams dancing the 1st round from punches that looked like he barely touched him
          Williams attested that Tyson was a harder puncher... though whether Toney's star is too far in accendance of Tyson's now remains to be seen.

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          • jack_the_rippuh
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            #15
            Toney has a granite chin.
            Danny Williams had a chin, but Tyson softened it up. So by the time Vitali got to him it was already ****.

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            • legend
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              #16
              Tyson softened it up? Sorry jack, but I just can't buy that. Your boy Toney can talk a good fight and beat John Ruiz. I'm glad he did, but in the context of beating VK, so the **** what?

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              • Enayze
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                #17
                Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                Toney knows how to lure fighters in. He'll lure Vitali into him.

                He fought a close battle with Ruiz, and you expect Vitali who is 6'8 with a reach of 29 inches, to get lured into slouching to a 5'9 man with a less than stellar reach of like 25 inches? Not to mention Vitali pocesses power within the whole fight, and has more than 2 handfull of knockouts past the 4th round unlinke Ruiz, whose power fades as early as the 3rd round.

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                • Stickman
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                  He'll stop Vitali by going to the body.
                  Yep, that's worked so well for everyone else who tried it.

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                  • Stickman
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by deuskie
                    If that fight ever happens, I'll bet all my points for Vitali.
                    If that fight happens, I'll bet every penny I can get my hands on if I can get odds that aren't 5 to 1 against Toney.

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                    • Enayze
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                      Toney has a granite chin.
                      Danny Williams had a chin, but Tyson softened it up. So by the time Vitali got to him it was already ****.

                      Softened it up lmao? That's priceless. I guess than Vitali's chin was also softened up after the Lewis fight, why didn't Corrie Sanders knock Vit out than? He did land a whole of clean power shots, and is known to pocess great power? What's your explanation for that one bud?

                      No one is hating on Toney, I think it's clear though, that TOney is trash when compared to Vitali. To be honest I want Toney to vs Wlad, I certainly believe Wlad would wipe the floor with him, even better than Vitali.

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