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  • jkaisen41
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    #11
    Originally posted by Chuckguy
    If he means that a 147 pound Clottey will beat a 130 pound chico and a 135 JLC and a 140 Hatton then ok
    yeah of course he is that much bigger
    but to base it on the chico that fought clottey that is lame
    a true boxing fan knows that chico was wasted from getting his ass handed to him by Floyd then the wars with JLC and Casamayor
    come on
    This is what he doesn't understand... that would be like me comparing Pacquiao's opposition to Chad Dawson's... but with the different weight on... do you think Barrera, Morales, Marquez would beat a LH??? Of course not, but that doesn't mean that they are worst then Chad Dawson's opponents...

    Logic is a thing outta this world for some here

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      #12
      Originally posted by jkaisen41
      It's sad J... but most dudes are like this... if they feel they can't win an argument... they put you on it so you can't say anything anymore... and claim victory...

      How is it going with my most beloved Pacquiao fan *loooooooooooool*
      Yea there are 2 posters who have me on ignore, Carnivore (blatant racist) and youngreezy or something like that (Floyd fan)...

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      • EMIL2010
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        #13
        I am sorry but I was force to put ****** like you on ignore after you

        said that HATTON would beat CLOTTEY cuz HATTON beat TSZYU.



        YEA RIGHT.

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        • jkaisen41
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          #14
          Originally posted by Chuckguy
          So since he busted a ***** move lets continue the convo here
          I think Floyd has better opp than Clottey
          maybe not at WW but in general
          JLC is a ATG at 135 Clottey isnt even top 3 at WW
          Of course he has... it's no question that Clottey is a good fighter BUT he is not great... he made him out to be...

          Clottey is skilled but he lost all of his important fights... you can give him Judah for the vacant title... if you give him Corrales then you better give Mayweather props for Marquez... he simply lacks something mentally and that's why I refuse to take him over guys like Hernandez, Castillo, Corrales etc. who all won big fights in their career and showed the mentality...

          Mayweather had a great reign at 130... no ATG... but there wasn't one around... not even Clottey's life long WW resume can hold up to what he did at 130. Mayweather fought Castillo, who was the best at the time and was very, very good... his only losses were because of cuts... beat S. Johnson...

          140 he beat Gatti (who is even though considered a bum a two division champion and beat guys like Ruelas)...

          147 beat the last two undisputed champs at 47 back to back...

          DLH at 154... no need to question DLH's accomplishments...

          Hatton at 147 (and yes, Hatton has won a championship there as well)... best fighter at 140 in his prime undefeated...

          Marquez... because of the weight I won't count it as a big win... but a HoF on your list is always nice...

          He ain't had ATG's really around him... so he couldn't fight one... he fought about 15 champions in his career... title defenses... over a decade almost P4P... always a champion... 5 different weight classes... but hey, somebody can question that of course...

          The only one in this generation who has better is Pacquiao... but he was also blessed to have guys like Morales, Barrera, Marquez in his division...

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            #15
            Originally posted by EMIL2010
            I am sorry but I was force to put ****** like you on ignore after you

            said that HATTON would beat CLOTTEY cuz HATTON beat TSZYU.



            YEA RIGHT.
            Yea but bro counter it with making good points. Not putting people on ignore. That shows weakness...

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            • jkaisen41
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              #16
              Originally posted by EMIL2010
              I am sorry but I was force to put ****** like you on ignore after you

              said that HATTON would beat CLOTTEY cuz HATTON beat TSZYU.



              YEA RIGHT.
              I never said that Hatton would beat Clottey because he beat Tszyu... I said that Hatton would beat Clottey... I have no problem repeating it... Clottey has no real footspeed and has no pop in his punches... Ricky stays close to him all day and outworks him... that's my opinion... thank you... don't come in here on my thread and twist my words... have you ever seen Clottey fight? He ain't no Bernard Hopkins dude... don't overrate him... he is good but he will never come close to guys like Marquez, DLH, Hernandez, Castillo, Corrales etc. etc. because he doesn't belong in that category... he is good

              But I won't put you on ignore... it's a ***** move dude

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              • jkaisen41
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                #17
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Yea there are 2 posters who have me on ignore, Carnivore (blatant racist) and youngreezy or something like that (Floyd fan)...
                Carnivore was Tunney before... I agree total waste of time even writing about him...

                YoungReezy... the name rings a bell somehow... isn't he the poster who always pops in and says: Easy work for the real P4P king etc. something like that or am I mistaken *loooooooooooooooool*

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                • EMIL2010
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Yea but bro counter it with making good points. Not putting people on ignore. That shows weakness...

                  This guys never whatch boxing.

                  I mean he said that HATTON would beat CLOTTEY.

                  I mean common,he deserve IP ban cuz of that.

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                  • Spacey1991
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jkaisen41
                    He is an absolute clown... I debated with him... he started to call me names... ignores me... and puts me down even further...

                    His mindset is this... he believes that Clottey is better then everbody who Floyd fought... not because of his skills but a 130 Hernadenz couldn' beat a 147 Clottey... I think he ain't understood how to put things into perspective

                    He just got owned by MichaelHall
                    Trust me mate, hes been doing it for ages, his first account was LA BAD BOY, you will have to just get used to it, the more he gets banned the more he comes back.

                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    Sup space?
                    long time no chat

                    in regards to that tool
                    he is a joke
                    he has a diagreement and then puts you on ignore
                    thats weak

                    He is just a troll
                    at best
                    no knowledge at all
                    Never puts me on ignore...

                    I do get what you mean though...

                    Anyway i'm good mate you?

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                    • jkaisen41
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by EMIL2010
                      This guys never whatch boxing.

                      I mean he said that HATTON would beat CLOTTEY.

                      I mean common,he deserve IP ban cuz of that.
                      LOL... I never watched boxing? I by the way never heard you talk about anything other then Pacquiao or what his opponents is concerned... and since you are such an expert who thinks that Clottey is better then every May opponent... the real question is who doesn't watch boxing dude. You do know that boxing is more then Pacquiao and his opponents?

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