does manny and his team really avoid slick boxers??

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  • EMIL2010
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    #31
    Originally posted by Spacey1991
    I don't think Manny is trying to avoid anyone to be fair, JMO.

    Exactly homie.

    PACQUIAO just doesnt care.

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    • Spacey1991
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      #32
      Originally posted by Lady Fan
      Hello Larry, Once the Pretty Boy "Mans UP" and quits being a drama queen, the Pacman will finally face your "Slick Boxer." JAT
      Both sides are to blame to a certain extent, stop trying to pin it on one just for the sake of disliking one and loving the other fighter.

      Anyway, changing the subject... why do you put random words in quotations whilst making a post?

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      • Spacey1991
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        #33
        Originally posted by EMIL2010
        Exactly homie.

        PACQUIAO just doesnt care.
        Both sides are to blame to a certain extent basically... a 14 day proposal is very reasonable and is meeting them half way (Manny wanted 30, Floyd wanted 0), but Floyd started it by demanding the blood tests... which even though IMO is a good idea for the sport, it still didn't help to be fair.

        And honestly, I genuinly think that both guys want to fight each other really... its just this one thing getting in the way, and Arum hasn't helped matters at all.

        Trying to speak objectively here, I think pinning all the blame on one side is kinda unfair.

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          #34
          Originally posted by larry x
          man up???i think manny needs to man up and just take the damn test..a 14 day window is a great comprimise
          Before Floyd demanded blood testing, you only care for the the fight to happen. Now that Floyd said it, you went along with. What happen to principle?

          You can be a Floyd fan and defend him the way you as long as its boxing related but you don't have to agree to his every shenanigans to be a fan. Stand by what you called for before because nsb knew it.

          Ask Floyd to trust his skills and talent rather than his make belief su****ion because every friggin boxing nuts believes Floyd is the better boxer and he has what it takes to beat Manny.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Lady Fan
            Hello Larry, Once the Pretty Boy "Mans UP" and quits being a drama queen, the Pacman will finally face your "Slick Boxer." JAT
            Hey Team Philippines explain to us why two weeks isn't enough even after Roach/Pacquiao asked for five days?

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            • Bushbaby
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              #36
              Well if Pacman Clottey goes through,I guess u guys is gonna have to take slick black fighter out ur equation & just use slick fighter hahahahahaha!!!

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              • EMIL2010
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                #37
                Originally posted by Spacey1991
                Both sides are to blame to a certain extent basically... a 14 day proposal is very reasonable and is meeting them half way (Manny wanted 30, Floyd wanted 0), but Floyd started it by demanding the blood tests... which even though IMO is a good idea for the sport, it still didn't help to be fair.

                And honestly, I genuinly think that both guys want to fight each other really... its just this one thing getting in the way, and Arum hasn't helped matters at all.

                Trying to speak objectively here, I think pinning all the blame on one side is kinda unfair.


                Look its only FLOYDIE s fault.

                He should stop with crazy demands like blood testing and fight would be ON right now.

                ARUM said 24 days and FLOYDIE refuse it and then when fight was over then FLOYDIE said 14 days.

                I mean common PEE & FIGHT FLOYDIE.

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                • Khalid X
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by PensionKiller
                  Who were the slick fighters that he could have fought.

                  Guzman was one, but not much interest was in that.

                  Yes I agree he doesn't have any on his resume. I think most fighters only face 1-3 good slick fighters in their career.
                  This.

                  Pac hasn't ducked em...it's just circumstances prevented it from happening. First opportunity, if you even call it that, was Mark "too sharp" Johnson when he was the man at 115 and 118. Manny was the flyweight champ at 112 but got brutal KTFO by Midgeon sigurat (sp). He was really drained and if you rewatch that fight you can clearly see manny needed to move up in a hurry. Also it made no sense to fight Johnson considering the way manny lost. It would be equivelant to asking Cotto to fight Sergio Martinez after getting recently smashed by Pacquiao.


                  at 122 Ledbabwa was the closest to a slick fighter in that division.

                  at 126 he was in line to fight another slick boxer, Prince Naseem Hamed. If im not mistaken, He was suppose to fight the winner of Barrera vs Hamed and once barrera won he fought him. Also Naz retired/ran into legal trouble...so that fight never happened. I also consider Kevin Kelly somewhat slick...but he was shot at the time.

                  Guzman....People always bring him up, but in reality Guzman was really green, He Beat Soto but outside of that he never really did anything.

                  at 135, While people bring up campbell, He was a nobody and shocked the world by beating Diaz. This fight happened a week after Pac vs Marquez II and actually Diaz was an undercard to that fight, showing that Bob was already setting up a Title for Manny at 135. Also, Diaz is a top rank fighter and Campbell is with King (a guy who Bob hates doing business with). Manny's fight with Diaz at 135 made sense with all things considered.

                  140-It made since to fight the lineal champ in Hatton. Also while Bradley is good, leading up to the fight he barely beat junior witter the year b4 and soundly beat cherry a little bit later on that year. He really didn't have a coming out, until he beat Holt, which was a few weeks before Pac fought Hatton.


                  So in know time has Manny ducked a slick fighter. I really wish someone would bring up a legit time instead of just repeating this non-sense. The only time I can honestly think of is when he fought Morales instead of Raheem. But again Pac had a huge buzz going only to get beat by Morales in their first fight. Pac felt he had an off night and since Erik was talking alot of ****, I made since to avenge his loss. People fail to forget that Raheem beat Morales after Pac vs Morales I and not II. Pac hadn't avenge his loss so it only made sense to do a rematch..especially since he had the clause and Morales was a top rank fighter at the time.

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                  • General Zod
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                    #39
                    Apart from Floyd who could be considered slick in the ww or lww division?

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                    • Khalid X
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                      #40
                      BTW I know my reply will be avoided like the plague. It's easy to just post "manny has ducked slick fighters", instead of backing it up or reply to post that addresses that theory.

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