Pacquiao might be making a mistake with Clottey.

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  • street bully
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    #21
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    Yeah, but he slips punches extremely well, and his legs allow him to keep his distance extremely well. A flat footed defensive fighter like Clottey is much more susceptible to Pacs onslaught then someone who can move and slip like Bradley.

    Also Bradleys stamina fully exceeds Clottey, along with his punch output.
    Bradley is much more agile that Clottey, but his agaility is very minor compared to Pacquaios. He would move a bit and try to box, would get beaten to the punch. The man also has a lot of heart, so I see him trading like he did with Holt sooner or late and getting stopped.

    Only reason I think Clottey is a tougher fight is because if the fight is at 147 Clottey will be huge, and I just do not see Pacquiao doing too much damage, and Clottey, while he lacks good goovmovement, is te best technical boxer at 147 behind Floyd, and would hit Pacquiao clean a number of times. Also Pacquiao jumping in to fire his shots could get him a nasty cut.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #22
      Originally posted by street bully
      He has a better chance than Bradley or malgnaggi. A better chance than Cotto did as well.
      You trippin Street. He doesn't have the stamina, activity, he's too stationary.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        You trippin Street. He doesn't have the stamina, activity, he's too stationary.
        His stamina is fine, never seen him gassed like Cotto. He just doesn't step it up late when he gets comfortable.

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        • SplitSecond
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          #24
          i see the same thing, clottey is a beast but pac will win
          after this fight pacquiao may be ruined and out of prime tho

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          • THE REED
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            #25
            Originally posted by street bully
            Bradley is much more agile that Clottey, but his agaility is very minor compared to Pacquaios. He would move a bit and try to box, would get beaten to the punch. The man also has a lot of heart, so I see him trading like he did with Holt sooner or late and getting stopped.

            Only reason I think Clottey is a tougher fight is because if the fight is at 147 Clottey will be huge, and I just do not see Pacquiao doing too much damage, and Clottey, while he lacks good goovmovement, is te best technical boxer at 147 behind Floyd, and would hit Pacquiao clean a number of times. Also Pacquiao jumping in to fire his shots could get him a nasty cut.
            Beating Bradley to the punch is easier said than done... It would be even... and Pac isn't known for his defensive genius either.. Bradley would get to Pac as much as Pac would get to Bradley... Bradley has shown what kind of power he can take against Holt, the man has an incredible chin.

            Also, he is very slick himself.. and I can't remember the last time I saw Pac fight anyone that is slick boxer like Bradley, who doesn't get tired, throws tons of punches, is determined to win, and can take a punch.

            And, I can definitely see Pacs accumulative angled combinations definitely having having a damaging effect on Clottey..

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              #26
              Originally posted by street bully
              His stamina is fine, never seen him gassed like Cotto. He just doesn't step it up late when he gets comfortable.
              Yep. Totally mental. It's all mental.

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                #27
                Clottey aint easy for no one. Pac will look confused as hell the first few rounds with that guard, like Cotto did.

                I can see Pac outworking Clottey, but it won't be easy by any means.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  Beating Bradley to the punch is easier said than done... It would be even... and Pac isn't known for his defensive genius either.. Bradley would get to Pac as much as Pac would get to Bradley... Bradley has shown what kind of power he can take against Holt, the man has an incredible chin.

                  Also, he is very slick himself.. and I can't remember the last time I saw Pac fight anyone that is slick boxer like Bradley, who doesn't get tired, throws tons of punches, is determined to win, and can take a punch.

                  And, I can definitely see Pacs accumulative angled combinations definitely having having a damaging effect on Clottey..
                  I like you would rather see the Bradley fight, but I disagree with the getting to Pac as much part. I see Pac having no respect for Bradleys shots, while Tim would have no choice but to have the upmost respect for Pacquiaos power. The anticipation of having Pacquaio catch you with a lighting qucik counter shot would have Bradley freeze up and throw less than usual in my opinion. Bradley is slicker than most, however he is not a very slick fighter himself, and is not a great counterpuncher.

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                  • sikwatee
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                    #29
                    If Pac wins, it won't be by KO. There might be some flash KD's in between.


                    Honestly, I don't want to see this fight. Pac needs PBF, PBF needs Pac. The mega fight will happen.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      I like you would rather see the Bradley fight, but I disagree with the getting to Pac as much part. I see Pac having no respect for Bradleys shots, while Tim would have no choice but to have the upmost respect for Pacquiaos power. The anticipation of having Pacquaio catch you with a lighting qucik counter shot would have Bradley freeze up and throw less than usual in my opinion. Bradley is slicker than most, however he is not a very slick fighter himself, and is not a great counterpuncher.
                      I disagree, he's pretty damn good at counterpunching when he uses his lateral movement and hand speed. When Cotto was boxing and moving Pacquiao just sort of followed him around the ring.. I haven't seen Pac do great against boxers that move, just fighters that come forward after him. Bradley can move, and slip extremely well. Even though Bradley has heart, he isn't the type of fighter to go toe to toe all night, he is going to box, and use his speed and reflexes in this fight. Pac would have his hands full in a boxing match like this.

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