Roach: "If they give me a 5 DAY WINDOW...."

[AIR_KENG]

once again *******s talking hours when mannys talking months..lolol

sorry but u have no proof of not the day of the fight what u do have proof of is what pac said and thats 24 days sorry u lose

LOL. The video of Pac saying that statement has been around the net and in these forums a lot. Let me know if you need help with Youtube, I can be of service.

[THE REED]

Then don't use business and negotiation as arguments if you are going to deviate from the concept.

Team Pac has been blurting out one compromise after another only to be turned down by Team May over and over again. Don't get me wrong, I want this fight to happen as much as you guys do but Team May has been the stubborn side in terms of compromise.

Lastly, operative word on the auction statement was "like". Which does not mean "exactly the same."

Ok, and what's your point? Now Team Mayweather has blurted out their compromise deal... a more than fair one.

And stubborn is an opinion.

Saying you NEED a 30 day cutoff for no testing, is stubborn in and of itself.

Only in the last week, has Arum said 24 days is now acceptable because they were caught redhanded doing it in the Hatton fight.

Within that same week, Team Mayweather offered 14 days.

[Lead Cenobite]

LOL. The video of Pac saying that statement has been around the net and in these forums a lot. Let me know if you need help with Youtube, I can be of service.

Compromise? What compromises did Team Pac give out?

they won't do the required part of what Floyd asked for : RANDOM testing.

Idiot.

[THE REED]

Random with a 14 day cutoff. Random with a 24 day cutoff. If you actually CAN cycle 24-48 hours with no detection then basically after 14 or 24 day cutoff is up you can juice. So really what's the big deal?

On the bold, nice logic. So Pacman agrees to additional testing that has never been done in the history of pro boxing, 40 years in nevada, with some of the greatest fighters ever but that's not a concession? That's the biggest concession there was in this entire fiasco bright lights. Jesus.

The big deal is this.

A week leading up to the fight you are winding down training camp, so you are not taking anything to enhance your training because training is coming to an end.

With a 14 day compromise, that would basically leave them 7 days, to enhance themselves to hypothetically train harder.

With a 24 day compromise, that gives them a 2 1/2 week window to hypothetically use a performance enhancer during their hardest of training.

[shabs]

LOL. The video of Pac saying that statement has been around the net and in these forums a lot. Let me know if you need help with Youtube, I can be of service.

yaya but thats not what hes saying at the negotiating table or at least thats not what hes saying now hes offering a 24 day window so stop posting that 1 or 2 days cause its not relevent cuz he'll never agree to that hell he didnt agree to 14 days what makes u think hell take 2 or 3 days b4 the fight be real *******..lol

[sandyvahra]

No, but he is the trainer.. and he knows Pacquiao better then anyone else. He knows Pac physically and mentally.. and his 5 day comment holds more water than the promoter as to what is realisitc.

Nobody needs 30 days to recover from a blood test.

We can go back and argue the validity of these random blood tests as a whole. At the end of the day it's a concession that need not be made. Everyone should take a step back and realize that.


I am sure they don't have every single interview being done by everyone in front of them. Also, at that point they were still in negotiations.. waiting to see what the next party would do. You don't come out with your full hand in the beginning, you wait to see that you can get the best deal you can. Now that we are at the very end... they have shown their full hand, and what they are willing to do to make the fight happen.

I agree that it's negotiations, but disagree that they didn't hear this. with the amount of hype this fight's gotten...I mean the camp's heard everything else each side has said.


As I said before... does a car dealer come out and just give you the lowest price on the car right away? No, of course not... it's negotiations. He wants to get the most out of you, and has a rock bottom price in his head that he knows he can go to to get the car sold.

Cant compare a 50k car to 40mill. With that money there isn't a need for these type of negotiations. Going back to my premise that this whole testing protocol was uncalled for and should in no way prevent this fight from happening.


Floyd has now given Pac that rock bottom price... the deal you can't walk away from... a more than reasonable compromise.

Is it rock bottom? If its not too late like you say, there might be room for a better price, no?

And as I have also said... the press conferences were slated for next week. The only person saying it's too late is Bob Arum, and for no reason.



Who cares... was the offer MADE? OR NOT?

It was made... it's now on the table in the final days.

Final DAYS yes, meaning they can still 'negotiate' and try and get a better 'deal'

This is the biggest grossing fight in the history of the sport and you now have a deal on the table is doable.

Who cares when it was left out or why.

It's here NOW.

The biggest fight in history was on the table if the same protocol was used in every fight of not only the 2 fighters career...but pro boxing in nevada for 40 years. It should not have gotten to this.

Ok... so they threw out the 14 days...

It's here now... they have it.

Whats the problem?

None I hope, but expect a counter offer of some sort.

Floyd has made a concession to accept a 10 Million dollar penalty should he go over the weight limit.

Which he was not obligated to do.

Floyd cheated the scales vs Marquez. Credibility.

I hope so.

Im convinced its getting signed. They made up for lack of promo time very fast.

[Hazardous]

I still think the fight will be signed.

Theres nowhere for Roach and Arum to run now that Floyd has made the 14 day offer. It will make them look too su****ious.

Call me crazy, but I'm still expecting the January 11th press conference announcing the fight.

My thoughts all along.

[sandyvahra]

Wow you'll do anything to defend Pac. Why?

What's he afraid of? Blood drainage? Which one of the Pac stories do you believe as to why he won't take the tests?

Way to reply to the content.

[Lead Cenobite]

Way to reply to the content.

Actually I already did. But you can't answer my questions before so I understand.

[sandyvahra]

The big deal is this.

A week leading up to the fight you are winding down training camp, so you are not taking anything to enhance your training because training is coming to an end.

With a 14 day compromise, that would basically leave them 7 days, to enhance themselves to hypothetically train harder.

With a 24 day compromise, that gives them a 2 1/2 week window to hypothetically use a performance enhancer during their hardest of training.

14 days = 10 days to juice (going with *****'s posting 24-48 hour cycles)
24 = 20
It's all hypothetical. We could just as easily say well Mayweather wanted random testing throughout the entire camp initally. He believes Pac's juicing. Now he offers 14 so what is it, pac is juicing or he is ok with pac juicing for 10 days?

See how it's just nitpicking at this point. It's horrible for boxing.