We Know Who Killed This Fight

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Floyd wants to use the USADA for the blood tests. Here's what the CEO of the USADA said about Pacquiao refusing random blood testing..

Pacquiao's resistance to submit to the blood tests would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.

But wait, in 2008, the USADA announced that HGH, what Floyd fans are saying Pacquiao is on, could be detected by a urinalysis.

USADA announced last year that they were funding a company that has developed a test to detect HGH in urine. And Pacquiao, as everyone knows, has agreed to submit to as many random urine tests as the Mayweather camp would like.

Tygart even told USA Today last year that the developers, Ceres Nanosciences, "have developed an outstanding technology. And we're looking forward to helping them develop it further so it can have a practical use in anti-doping efforts."

Yesterday, Ceres Nanosciences launched the first release of that new technology, NanotrapTM ESP Particles.

These particles are designed to improve complex biofluid sample processing allowing for the detection of low-abundance proteins that would not otherwise be detected and also uses existing medical equipment.

What this means, simply, is that HGH use is now detectable through testing of urine samples and the breakthrough technology is officially ready to "Rock-and-Roll."

Source

"Olympic Tests Have Never Detected HGH in an Athlete: USADA Backs Urine"

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/321178-olympic-tests-have-never-detected-hgh-in-an-athlete-usada-backs-urine

So apparently, Tygart and the USADA changed their tune as soon as Mayweather wanted to use them for testing. But, naw, thats not su****ious at all, right?

Not only that...

"Scientists say breakthrough urine test for HGH developed"

A team of scientists from the USA and Italy say they have developed a urine test that detects human growth hormone. The finding is a potential breakthrough in efforts to find a non-invasive way to screen for the performance-enhancing drug that is banned throughout the athletic world.

Governing bodies and U.S. pro leagues have long sought a test that doesn't require blood to detect HGH, a synthetic hormone that aids in recovery and bolsters muscle growth. Even with the blood test, no prominent athlete has tested positive for HGH. Former track and field star Marion Jones and some baseball players, including New York"

Source Http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2008-...ine-test_N.htm

But alright, Manny was willing to negotiate, but Floyd wasn't

Insidesports.ph, Standard Today, Viva Sports and BoxingScene.com understand that the Mayweather handlers led by Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer and Mayweather’s top adviser Al Hayman had tried to convince the fighter to agree to the 24-day blood test proposal which Pacquiao had agreed to and which medical experts had said was more than sufficient to detect any traces of performance enhancing drugs, but they were turned down by Mayweather resulting in the fight being called off.

So, the FACTS show that

A. The USADA has gone on record and said HGH can be detected by urinalysis

B. ******ia-based Ceres Nanosciences, partnered with George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., and Italy's Istituto Superiore di Sanitą have stated HGH can be detected by a urinalysis.

C. Goldenboy AND Al Haymon have agreed to the 24 day cut of which medical experts had said was more than sufficient to detect any traces of performance enhancing drugs, but FLOYD TURNED IT DOWN.

No matter HOW you try and spin this, no matter how much you try to FOX NEWS it up, the facts are FACTS. You guys LOVE facts. So here you go.

[B u r n e r]

Pac killed the fight. 24 Day cut off is a joke. Why does he need 24 days with no testing?

Olympic guru: Blood AND urine testing must for Mayweather-Pacquiao

Michael Marley



Not to come off as any kind of bleeding heart but this random testing controversy between demanding Floyd Mayweather Jr. and so far refusing Manny Pacquiao may soon become academic.

Whether or not Pacman accedes to Mayweather’s stand for Olympic-style testing of both blood and urine, it’s coming to boxing and coming soon.


I spoke at length with the key medical figure involved in the constant refinement and upgrading of drug testing in the Olympics, UCLA Professor Emeritus Dr. Donald Catlin and he said, contrary to an article he published back in 2003, that BOTH random checks of urine and blood are imperative to keep athletes, in this case boxers, honest.


“This kind of testing must be done,” Dr. Catlin said, “so the public can be sure, relatively sure, that the boxers are clean.

See reporter Jill Lieber Steeg's superb March 4, 2007, USA Today profile of Dr. Catlin.

“It may seem tough to some but we’ve got keep raising the bar, hoping they (cheaters and their helpers) make mistakes. We have to make life miserable for them and that is what random testing can do, what it is doing. We have to keep closing the window of time when they can cheat and get away with it.”

First, let me make a point about the Good Doctor.

(See how Olympic drug crackdown shook up the August, 2008, Beijing Games.)


He is not, other than a longtime volunteer association with Don Jose Sulaiman and the World Boxing Council, any kind of boxing insider. He wasn’t really sure who either Bob Arum or admitted steroid user Sugar Shane Mosley were when I mentioned their names as he spoke from his home in California.

Second, the doctor found it kind of amazing when I informed him that former BALCO ringleader Victor Conte, the guy who handed Mosley his cheater drugs and his doping calendar before Shane’s second bout against Oscar de la Hoya, is working with some boxers today.

“Really, Victor Conte?” Dr. Catlin said. “He used to be the bad guy, he got caught and now I guess he’s supposed to be one of the good guys. I was deeply involved in the Barry Bonds case and in all the BALCO situations. We worked for years before we caught Conte.”

I asked the distinguished physician and professor what type of illegal drugs might be most likely to tempt professional boxers.

“Well, with Human Growth Hormone, the smaller guys might be less into that than the bigger fighters, the heavyweights. But we can’t be sure about any fighters using HGH, EPO and steroids without the blood and urine testing done at random times.”

EPO is the drug that most people either accuse Pacman of using or whisper that he is using, the most likely drug enabling him to rise from a scrawny 106-pounder to the welterweight who has been knocking out foes weighing 160 pounds.

Dr. Catlin makes no presuppositions about Pacquiao or any other athlete but he did talk about EPO.

“That’s an endurance thing but nobody has done real studies on this in relation to boxing so there is no hard data on it. The way it is now you can’t be sure, in any given fight, that both fighters are not cheating.”

Dr. Catlin sees the current Nevada State Athletic Commission drug testing protocol as inefficient and not up to date in terms of detection.

But he’s not a critic of the Nevada boxing board, in fact, he would be willing to work with the NSAC to strengthen its testing protocol.

“We’re getting better at this but did you know that, in the last 30 years, nobody has been caught using HGH because there is not a good enough test as of yet. You can stop using HGH for one day, just one day, and you can be clean in any test. They can use EPO one day and then it can be gone by noontime the next day. All the drugs are different, all have different windows (for detection). All we can do is to keep upping the ante, making the tests more random and stronger.

“I think the present situation is bad for boxing in the public relations sense because I think fairness is so vitally important. But absolutely I would love to help Nevada, I would love to sit down and talk about what they’re testing for how and how they’re testing,” Dr. Catlin said.

“I am not saying we’ve got the Olympics all cleaned up, not by any means. But we are getting there.”
Mayweather, Pacquiao and all the rest had better get used to getting that needle jab because it sounds like random blood and urine testing is the wave of the future in boxing just as it already is in the Olympic Games.

[The Underboss]

*****s stay getting owned .

[chino727]

Don't forget EPO! cuz floyd fans will say manny is on that too.but wait...EPO is detected through the urine isn't it?yup.next is higher ***** count, the bigger ****ter and then whoever pees the farthest will be the one on PEDS

[Rabbit ♠]

They both killed it. ****in divas.

[B u r n e r]

Why does Pac need a 24 Day cut off?. Thats what holding the fight. The cut off date.

[2501]

Pac killed the fight. 24 Day cut off is a joke. Why does he need 24 days with no testing?

Ha it was good enough for GBP and Haymon but not Floyd, the *** outta here. Floyd doesnt want this fight. There is NO evidence that Pac is using and you KNOW Floyd isnt gonna request his future opponents to test. What does that tell you?

[The Underboss]

Ha it was good enough for GBP and Haymon but not Floyd, the *** outta here. Floyd doesnt want this fight. There is NO evidence that Pac is using and you KNOW Floyd isnt gonna request his future opponents to test. What does that tell you?

Mayweather: doesn't fight the best fighters out there for him instead he fights smaller guys to protect his '0'..

After Hatton he ducked Cotto (who back then was considered the best W.W), and also ducked Margarito and others and retired.

a couple of months after the retirement (before Manny fought Hatton) he was on SportsCenter, B.K asked him if he'd fight Cotto and he clearly stated: Cotto doesn't have a big fan base....DUCK.

Manny beats Hatton, during this time Floyd Sr never had thought of the steroids accusations.

He came back and fought a JR LIGHTWEIGHT who from the beginning had no chance in winning and beat him clearly, 1.0 million PPV buys.

Manny fights Cotto and destroys him in 12 rounds, the fight drew 1.25 million PPV buys (How is Mayweather going to say Cotto has no fan base when his people contributed to the 1.25 million PPV buys with Pacquiao?).

After the aftermath of Cotto/Pacquiao...Daddy Floyd sees Pacquiao's superman skills and invents an excuse for his ***** son not to fight him: STEROIDS, then they all demand Olympic Style blood tests (who the fuck do they think they are to demand such thing? ).

I knew from the beginning that this fight wasn't going to happen, PBF is the Master at ducking fighters who pocess THREATS to him and to his worthless ''0'' and the master at beating little guys who have no chance.

Fuck Mayweather and his crew.

[Rabbit ♠]

If I was Pac I would have said "K I'll take your test *****", passed it, got in the ring and beat the **** out of him. That's me though...

[Sin City]

Why does Pac need a 24 Day cut off?. Thats what holding the fight. The cut off date.

you obviously ignored and didn't read the main thread article..
because blood isn't needed to detect HGH! simple as that..