There's no way to spin this.. You can't blsme Mayweather for the fight not happening.

[shade darkar]

Floyd and his camp agreed to everything Pacquiao asked for.

ALl you guys saying Floyd is a ***** for the steroids testing are just biased fans.. None of you guys are entering the ring, 94% of you probably have no boxing or fighting experience period..

simply, if you want to clear any su****ions about your abilities and ensure you're a clean and honorable fighter, Pacquiao should have and could have agreed to random testing.. This has nothing to do with principle or anything because this is a guy who has acted like a diva during fight negotiations and made crazy demands in the past and currently, and done some things in his personal life that may not be appropriate, like im sure all of have at some point in our lives, but he is not above the sport..

Stop treating him like he is God or something.. Both fighters should be willing to do anything to make this fight happen because this is what the world wants to see.

Maybe this is just for publicity and promotion for the fight, or maybe it's legit. But Mayweather shouldn't be the one to blame for all this, and if anyone is scared it seems like the Pacquiao camp is.. Maybe not afraid to fight a particular fighter, but maybe they are hiding something.. it's a fair assessment to make due the behavior being displayed from the camp.

bollocks. why are you trying to defend him?! mayweather wont fight by the same rules as everybody else, so its his own fault, he isnt above the rules of boxing. maybe he should stick to the circus act that is the WWE if he wants easy paydays.

[Xplosivo]

On Margarito, "he has four losses, and nobody knows him".

Tony confronts him face to face, Floyd says, "We'll fight later, it will be bigger down the line".

On Cotto, "oh, he has to get his PPVs up".

Coincidentally, Floyd "retired" right before Margarito and Cotto squared off.

On Shane, "I don't fight sparring partners". "We, we we play basketball together remember?"

On Manny, "we need a random blood tests for the betterment of the sport".

"if you don't know, now you know *****" - legend!

Margarito - ABC Title Holder, Floyd fought the linear champion for more money. Floyd said when it will be bigger down the line yet Margarito loses to his mandatory in Paul Williams in his next fight and his stock falls down. Later on gets exposed with plaster of paris, what a cheating piece of ****.

Cotto - Him and his team wanted nothing to do with Mayweather at 140, they refused the fight twice and Bob Arum insisted "Cotto isn't ready for Mayweather" and at 147 Cotto didn't really call out Mayweather on the cameras, the least he could have done is get past Margarito and made it possible but didnt and later robbed Joshua Clottey of a win and then dominated by Pacquiao.

Shane - "My tooth hurts, I need to take holidays with my family" LMFAO. The fight could have happened instead of Baldomir, but Shane has ducked Floyd on two different occasions, when Floyd was a lightweight and when Floyd wanted to fight him after he fought Vargas. Well, karma is a *****.



Fingers crossed the fight will happen though IF Mosley gets past Berto, All eyes on Mosley on 30th January.

Pacquiao - "I refuse to take blood tests to prove I am clean, because I am scared of needles even though I got a lot of tattoos, I would rather fight Mayweather in a courtroom and not prove my self clean (Note: Mayweather would be taking the same test Pacquiao would.)

[rocky_balboa23]

Floyd and his camp agreed to everything Pacquiao asked for.

ALl you guys saying Floyd is a ***** for the steroids testing are just biased fans.. None of you guys are entering the ring, 94% of you probably have no boxing or fighting experience period..

simply, if you want to clear any su****ions about your abilities and ensure you're a clean and honorable fighter, Pacquiao should have and could have agreed to random testing.. This has nothing to do with principle or anything because this is a guy who has acted like a diva during fight negotiations and made crazy demands in the past and currently, and done some things in his personal life that may not be appropriate, like im sure all of have at some point in our lives, but he is not above the sport..

Stop treating him like he is God or something.. Both fighters should be willing to do anything to make this fight happen because this is what the world wants to see.

Maybe this is just for publicity and promotion for the fight, or maybe it's legit. But Mayweather shouldn't be the one to blame for all this, and if anyone is scared it seems like the Pacquiao camp is.. Maybe not afraid to fight a particular fighter, but maybe they are hiding something.. it's a fair assessment to make due the behavior being displayed from the camp.

and when pac asked for a compromise, May stood on his unreasonablee demand. It's floyd who is avoiding his own "tests"

[Baracka Flocka]

You Floyd fans are either ignorant, ****** or just refuse to believe the truth. The TRUTH is that it is mandated that a BLOOD test is taken IMMEDIATELY taken after every fight. Pac has passed all of those, he's also passed any ones prior to a fight whether it be 2 days (which he's done) or more, all clean. So why exactly is it that Manny has done steroids?

Because he started fighting at 106 pounds, and is now weighting about 148 on fight night? Is it because he's done all this and is knocking guys out? Is it because he is so fast, I mean why exactly is Manny on steroids or should I say what gives that impression? The fact is that Mayweather fought at 106 pounds when he was 16 in the amateurs, the only difference between him and Manny is that at 16 Manny was a professional as there isn't, or at least at the time, wasn't a amateur division in the Philippines. I've also heard that Manny simply lied about his age to become a professional in order to make money, either way both were 16 and fighting at 106 pounds.

Both guys have also won titles and moved up in weight at roughly the same time. The only differences between the two guys is that one has faced solid competition and the other hasn't. The other main difference is that one is an aggressive fighter and the other is defensive, and the last time I checked aggressive fighters tend to get more KO's than defensive ones. But apparently Mayweather can't come to grips that someone whose done the same accomplishments as him immediately means they are on steroids... using this logic Mayweather must be on the juice too, and judging by how much he grew over the passed 2 years I'd believe that over Manny on it.

But I want to add more facts to this scenario. Ever since Manny was fighting at 126+ he's been coming into the ring on fight night about 142-145 pounds, the same weight he comes in at now. So he didn't all of a sudden just gain 20 pounds in a 2 year span, he's been there for some time. So either he's been on the juice for a VERY VERY long time, or from being 16 and fighting at 106 his body simply grew into itself at 140+, just like Mayweather. Secondly, and what I think is what got Manny the "steroid" crap is that he is KO'ing guys as he's moving up in weight. They may be a KO on paper, but he hasn't actually won by a KNOCK OUT since the Hatton fight, and before that the Diaz fight, and before that Morales who wasn't knocked out he simply quit.

Cotto... ref stopped it, DLH... his corner stopped it these big huge guys that are supposedly getting "KTFO" Manny isn't a killing guys he's just faster than them and he has good power with that speed, he isn't Edwin Valero coming from 130 and KO'ing WW's. Mayweather isn't able to knock anyone out, its not because the guy can't its because he's just content pot shotting all night and winning on the cards, and in just about every fight he wants bigger gloves to protect his hands. Sorry but if you want to be a defensive counter puncher, and wear 10 oz.+ sized gloves you aren't going to be getting the KO numbers as a guy who is an offensive beast and wears 8 oz gloves.

Finally, Ellerbe is not only Mayweathers advisor but he's also Berto's. What exactly does that matter? Berto is fighting Mosley this month, an admitted steroid user, but for some reason Ellerbe doesn't want to change the drug testing for that fight, what is in place now works just fine. Essentially, its ok for Berto to fight a guy whose been proven to take steroids without any extra testing needed, but a guy whose been completely clean has to take more tests all of a sudden?

For the lazy asses who can't read all those words read this:

Manny never said he wouldn't take a blood test, or even take one two days before the fight. All he said was that if the Nevada doping police felt more testing was needed he was fine with it. Simply put, he's NOT going to be Mayweathers ***** and take more tests just because he says, he's doing what the rules have always been. If someone came to your boss at work, and said "This guy smokes weed" and your boss came up to you and said, "Sorry man, but this guy thinks you smoke weed with no proof, and while we've always had random testing, but because this guy just says you smoke you're going to have to take a hair test. Though our policy for the passed 20 years has only been urine testing this guy just saying it changes all the rules, and if you test positive even if its from 5 years back, you're fired."

Even though you've passed every random test your employee's given you, you've never even smoked before in your life, just because some crack head dumbass says you do, you're forced to do it? Bull****, plain and simple. Its INNOCENT till proven guilty, might as well have a cop arrest you for armed robbery with no proof, but the burden is on you to prove yourself innocent, there is a reason the law works the way it does now, or you could be arrested at any moment for any reason and its exactly what Mayweather has just done. The fact is simple, Mayweater did this for more publicity and it backfired because Manny can draw with or without Floyd because he's willing to fight THE BEST, Mayweather isn't and all he's done is killed his career. The only names out there for him are Mosley and Cotto and now that Cotto lost to Manny even if Mayweather wins its going to be "Manny did it first" and if Mosley loses this month Mayweathers going to be screwed looking for people to fight and he isn't going to be able to draw ****. Him and his dad finally bit off more than those big ass lips could chew.

It's a urine test, and after the fight doesn't make as much sense as prior to the fight since by the end of the fight the damage has been done.

what is Manny beat Floyd into a coma....then tested positive? What then?

[Baracka Flocka]

Margarito - ABC Title Holder, Floyd fought the linear champion for more money. Floyd said when it will be bigger down the line yet Margarito loses to his mandatory in Paul Williams in his next fight and his stock falls down. Later on gets exposed with plaster of paris, what a cheating piece of ****.

Cotto - Him and his team wanted nothing to do with Mayweather at 140, they refused the fight twice and Bob Arum insisted "Cotto isn't ready for Mayweather" and at 147 Cotto didn't really call out Mayweather on the cameras, the least he could have done is get past Margarito and made it possible but didnt and later robbed Joshua Clottey of a win and then dominated by Pacquiao.

Shane - "My tooth hurts, I need to take holidays with my family" LMFAO. The fight could have happened instead of Baldomir, but Shane has ducked Floyd on two different occasions, when Floyd was a lightweight and when Floyd wanted to fight him after he fought Vargas. Well, karma is a *****.



Fingers crossed the fight will happen though IF Mosley gets past Berto, All eyes on Mosley on 30th January.

Pacquiao - "I refuse to take blood tests to prove I am clean, because I am scared of needles even though I got a lot of tattoos, I would rather fight Mayweather in a courtroom and not prove my self clean (Note: Mayweather would be taking the same test Pacquiao would.)

People will ignore this though. send this to RA the ruggyman. It won't matter, people hate on floyd for obvious reasons and can't get past the envy.

[Gutz]

because he may be hiding something..

everyone that cant see that or refuses to are just idiots

Youre the idiot..

Pac agreed,


Floyd didnt



Floyd a *****..

[Scott9945]

Pac passed up this much money too.

Why doesnt he want to be tested with those 24 days?

Why nobody is asking that?

Actually you keep asking that, in every thread you post in. Pacquiao is not required to submit to blood tests. He was willing to do what no other fighter has ever had to do. He just wasn't willing to bend over for every one of Floyd's terms. Nevada has an athletic commission, and the commissioner is NOT Floyd Mayweather. He's the one who thinks he is bigger than boxing.

[madsweeney]

It's a urine test, and after the fight doesn't make as much sense as prior to the fight since by the end of the fight the damage has been done.

what is Manny beat Floyd into a coma....then tested positive? What then?

Blood tests are not immediate. Blood tests tanking the week of the fight wouldn't be completed until after the fight anyways so your point is moot.

[Xplosivo]

Still waiting for Tortilas reply to my post.

[Beater_of_ass]

It's a urine test, and after the fight doesn't make as much sense as prior to the fight since by the end of the fight the damage has been done.

what is Manny beat Floyd into a coma....then tested positive? What then?

Don't reply to anything ever again, please. It is mandatory in the state of Nevada that a blood test be taken after each fight, not just urine. There are also a minimum of two blood tests taken prior to the fight up to 30 days before the fight, those are the rules NOW. The rules each fighter including Floyd has followed in order to fight in the state of Nevada. Floyds never had a problem with it till now, if he did, he simply should have approached the Nevada State Commission about it and started a petition or a slew of other ways to make it fair for everyone not just himself.

Also, you simply focused on one fact which was the type of test. The fact is that Floyd and Manny have done EVERYTHING the same in their boxing careers. Moved up in weight at roughly the same pace and won multiple titles in multiple divisions, THEY COME INTO THE RING AT THE SAME WEIGHT AS WELL. So the only way Mayweather is saying its possible for anyone else but himself to do this is because they are taking steroids? Whose to say then that Mayweather hasn't used steroids if thats the only way its possible? Or is it simply because Manny isn't black and thus he can't actually be that good without the help of a foreign substance in his body.

One more thing, as for Cotto not calling out Mayweather click the link in my sig. Also, Floyd was calling out Cotto as 140... Cotto was NEVER a draw at 140 and this IS "Money" Mayweather correct? So... Marg isn't enough of a draw with 8 million but a fight with Cotto possible for 2 at the most is? A fighter who didn't even have 20 fights at the time. So essentially Mayweather should be calling out Victor Ortiz? I mean, he's a good fighter... he isn't a draw and he is still green, but if Mayweather, the P4P best as his fans say, calls your name you need to accept.

But if another fighter comes to Mayweather, he can turn them down for living in PR, or not being "big" enough. GTFO with that ****, the fact is Floyd hasn't fought a top 5 P4P WW in FOUR years now, there IS no excuse for that, period. There was one common issue in all of those fights that didn't get made and that was Floyd was not the calling for it, if Floyd doesn't ASK for a fight it means he doesn't want the fight. If you don't want to fight the P4P best you don't deserve to be brought up as one.

EDIT: Watched that video of Mosley, I just wanted to finish Roys statement as it pertains perfectly to Mayweathers career. Money talks (and May does a lot of that) and bull**** walks (and May does even more of that, as he can't seem to get fights with quality fighters.)