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  • jrosales13
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    #31
    Originally posted by Go Blue
    Do you really?

    Who is Pavlik promoted by Genius.

    This fight will never happen..get over it
    It could get done... Arum is a smart business man. He will know a Floyd fight would be Pavlik career high payday. He also knows that Pavlik is not as big as he use to be. I could see that Arum cashing out with that fight...

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    • DarthVoid
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      #32
      ruminate on that for a moment and see you later

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        #33
        Originally posted by ThreeBlindMice
        no, burner. with blunt honesty, i believe floyd, his camp, and some of his fans dont want him to face pavlik and other top current boxers because he might lose.

        against pavlik, he could lose.

        pity.
        Manny Pac?..P4P Number 1.......Wasnt they trying to work out a contract to fight.

        Haters.

        ARUM PROMOTES PAVLIK.

        What don't you understand about that???

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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          It could get done... Arum is a smart business man. He will know a Floyd fight would be Pavlik career high payday. He also knows that Pavlik is not as big as he use to be. I could see that Arum cashing out with that fight...
          This fight will never happen.........

          Pavlik after fighting Rubio, Espino, and Lockett..then fighting the light hitting Mayweather.

          Umm **** no.

          Pavlik needs to fight Sturm or Paul or Martinez..NOT a WW.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Go Blue
            Go through that list since Castillo and show me who he should have fought.

            Considering the date that fighter last fought....considering promotional companies.....considering HBO/Shotime.....Considering the rankings...........Considering the belts.

            Please.
            Could of fought bots Spadafora and Johnston instead of Sosa and Ndou. Both Spaddy and Johnston were ranked higher than Sosa and Ndou. Neither Spaddy nor Johnston were with Showtime. Johnston had 1 disputed lost against Castillo and the first fight was declared a draw. Was a robbery, Johnston clearly won that fight. Spaddy was an undefeated title holder at the time.

            He could of fought Vivian Harris instead of Henry Bruseles. Harris was not with Showtime. Harris was a title holder and was ranked in the top 3 by the Ring at the time. Floyd was the mandatory for that same title but never exercised his right to challenger. Matter of fact he could of fought Harris before Bruseles. Since Floyd only fought once in 2004.

            In 2006 he could and should of fought Margarito. He did not have to fight Zab Judah after Judah was coming off a loss. Margarito had the best WW resume out of all the WWs at the time. Margarito was the longest raining title holder at the time. Margarito was the ranked #1 by the Ring.

            After Oscar he could of fought Shane, after Hatton he could of Cotto, after Margarito beat Cotto he could of fought Margarito. Him coming out retirement could of fought Shane, Cotto, Clottey, but he chose to fight JMM.

            Floyd is a great a businessman. And, one of the best matchmakers in the sport. He has the skills to really be considered amongst top 10-15 all time. And, he was on his way there. But, something happened after the Castillo rematch. That made him more of a business man. And, since that day he has refuse to challenge himself... If you can not see it, then I do not know what to tell you...

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              #36
              Originally posted by ThreeBlindMice
              January 5th, 2010 By Kevin Perry

              TELL MANNY TO GO FIGHT JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ!
              Los Angeles, CA- The attention garnered by the potential welterweight match between Las Vegas resident Floyd Mayweather Jr. (40-0, 25 KOs) and Filipino phenom and ‘pound for pound’ king Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) has turned the boxing and sports world upside down. Negotiations have faltered, or depending on who’s talking, come to a screeching halt due to various demands by both camps. Unless you live under a rock, anyone who follows the sport in the slightest knows that “Scary Boy” Floyd “I Need Money” Mayweather had some ridiculous demands for Pacquiao requesting that both be relegated to random blood testing during training. Manny refused and resented the fact that Floyd, Floyd Sr., Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya were making various innuendos and/or claims that he uses steroids or performance enhancing drugs. The Filipino countered with a lawsuit against his accusers. Now that this potential blockbuster seems dead in the water, Floyd still has a viable option for a big money fight. That opponent ironically is not named Shane Mosley (46-5, 39 KOs) , is not Paul Williams (38-1, 27 KOs) and is not even a welterweight.

              FLOYD V. PAVLIK: THE FIGHT OF 2010
              If Floyd would move up to 160 pounds and defeat undisputed middleweight king Kelly “The Ghost” Pavlik (36-1, 32 KOs) his status as one of the all-time greats, win or lose, is sealed. Even with the magnitude of a huge with the Filipino still looming, beating Pavlik would be a monumental feat. Based on the styles, Floyd’s fast feet and boxing IQ might cause major problems for the sometimes robotic and one-dimensional Pavlik. The Ghost’s obvious advantages are size and power, but against a foe as elusive as Mayweather one might think Kelly’s slow plodding style would be a perfect contrast for Mayweather’s side to side movement and speed. The 6′1 Pavlik would try to impose his size on the much smaller 5′8 Mayweather. As we’ve seen before in all of Floyd’s fights, executing a game plan against him is easier said than done.

              COULD NEVER QUESTION FLOYD’S FORTITUDE
              If Mayweather had the stones to agree to this challenge that puts a feather in his cap right there. As unlikely as the prospect of this fight happening seems, the amount of money this would generate is huge. Both are American. Pavlik has an exciting offensive style, and Floyd while not too exciting inside the squared circle is flamboyant outside of it. This promotion if executed properly could possibly exceed the expectations of Pacquiao versus Floyd. Think of Marvin Hagler versus Leonard. This fight could be of that magnitude, and should be considered a real possibility in 2010.

              http://ringtalk.com/screw-pacman-flo...vlik#more-5965
              bob arum is a businessman. money talks. if team mayweather wants pavlik - which i highly doubt - arum will welcome the offer.

              the question is - will team mayweather rise to the occasion? they screwed up the floyd-pac bout already, didn't they?

              Just my two cents' worth.
              Last edited by Killa_Kali; 01-06-2010, 12:21 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Go Blue
                This fight will never happen.........

                Pavlik after fighting Rubio, Espino, and Lockett..then fighting the light hitting Mayweather.

                Umm **** no.

                Pavlik needs to fight Sturm or Paul or Martinez..NOT a WW.
                Right because everybody would be outrage and claim he is ducking Sturm, Paul, or Martinez in order to fight Floyd. Who will say that bro? Nobody. You right it will not happen but not because of the reason that you are making

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Go Blue
                  Manny Pac?..P4P Number 1.......Wasnt they trying to work out a contract to fight.

                  Haters.

                  ARUM PROMOTES PAVLIK.

                  What don't you understand about that???
                  Pac is the cash cow, Pavlik is not anymore. What don't you understand about that?

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                  • Go Blue
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    could of fought bots spadafora and johnston instead of sosa and ndou. Both spaddy and johnston were ranked higher than sosa and ndou. Neither spaddy nor johnston were with showtime. Johnston had 1 disputed lost against castillo and the first fight was declared a draw. Was a robbery, johnston clearly won that fight. Spaddy was an undefeated title holder at the time.


                    floyd called out both of them..........a fight never happened....these 2 guys werent trying to line up to fight floyd.

                    he could of fought vivian harris instead of henry bruseles. Harris was not with showtime. Harris was a title holder and was ranked in the top 3 by the ring at the time. Floyd was the mandatory for that same title but never exercised his right to challenger. Matter of fact he could of fought harris before bruseles. Since floyd only fought once in 2004.

                    harris was never an option for floyd.........ever....you pulling names out of hats.

                    in 2006 he could and should of fought margarito. He did not have to fight zab judah after judah was coming off a loss. Margarito had the best ww resume out of all the wws at the time. Margarito was the longest raining title holder at the time. Margarito was the ranked #1 by the ring.

                    why should he had fought marg??? He was a paper champion with a menaingless belt. Baldimir had the wbc lineal ww title. Judah vs. Mayweather was already signed...b4 judah loss.

                    Floyd did not want to work with arum..and arum had stuff in the contract to where floyd had to fight with arum again.



                    after oscar he could of fought shane, after hatton he could of cotto, after margarito beat cotto he could of fought margarito. Him coming out retirement could of fought shane, cotto, clottey, but he chose to fight jmm.


                    wy would he fight shane after oscar???...what was shane at the time?...didnt shane just ducked mayweather the year before?

                    After hatton..he retired....like he said he was going to do......he said hed love to fight cotto......nothing ever happen..talks between both camps never happened.

                    When margarito beat cotto..floyd was retired.

                    Why would take 2 years off from boxing and fight shane...cotto or clottey in his first fight back....

                    When timing, reflexes, and speed all diminish...floyd fought jmm to shake off ring rust....

                    Clottey wasnt an option..he just fought cotto.....and vice versa.

                    Floyds date was july 19th.....none of those fighters were available except shane...and why would floyd fight the number 1 welter after 2 years removed from boxing.



                    floyd is a great a businessman. And, one of the best matchmakers in the sport. He has the skills to really be considered amongst top 10-15 all time. And, he was on his way there. But, something happened after the castillo rematch. That made him more of a business man. And, since that day he has refuse to challenge himself... If you can not see it, then i do not know what to tell you...

                    im not buying that **** about him not challneging himself..boxing is a sport to us...its a business to them.

                    You saying he hasnt challenged himself...is pure hatred.





                    bolded..................
                    Last edited by Go Blue; 01-06-2010, 12:33 PM.

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                    • Go Blue
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Right because everybody would be outrage and claim he is ducking Sturm, Paul, or Martinez in order to fight Floyd. Who will say that bro? Nobody. You right it will not happen but not because of the reason that you are making
                      If Pavlik fights a WW.......thats inexcusable... especially after fighting Rubio, Lockett, and Espino.

                      He needs to fight Williams, Sturm or Martinez...POINT BLANK.

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