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    #31
    Originally posted by Xcusemymood
    Mosley never tested positive and neither did tons of Baseball players.....that is a horrible example.
    Bull****, if you don't have proof someone tested positive, don't say it to news agencies, period, or you get sued.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Xcusemymood
      I dont think he is either, but the point of the thread is that if he doesnt know what he puts in his body how can he honestly say he has never taken a PED?

      I agree this could be the case with any boxer/athlete, not only Pac.
      I don't know if somebody could possibly not know since there are so many PED out there that I don't know how some of them are taken... For example Roy Jones took some stuff that you could buy over the counter. If you can go to a store and be able to buy it how can you think is illegal?

      But, as a fighter, as an athlete in general. In this day and age you should be more responsible. You should every little detail of what you are taking. I know some athletes are not like that. They hire a personal to worry about all that. But, really that is just being irresponsible.

      I also know some boxers who get injected with B12 shots on there stomach. Could those B12 shots have some PED's on them without the fighter knowing? Maybe I think so is not out of the question...

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        #33
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I don't know if somebody could possibly not know since there are so many PED out there that I don't know how some of them are taken... For example Roy Jones took some stuff that you could buy over the counter. If you can go to a store and be able to buy it how can you think is illegal?

        I also know some boxers who get injected with B12 shots on there stomach. Could those B12 shots have some PED's on them without the fighter knowing? Maybe I think so is not out of the question...
        yeah you can get injected with something not knowing what's in it, but if you do that, it's your fault.

        I lift weights and a guy I knew at the gym got busted about 5 years ago for dealing steroids right out of the gym. He hasn't been back since and the FBI took him RIGHT out of the gym.

        He used to tell me exactly what that **** does to you and you'll know it if you're on it.

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          #34
          Mosley knew. He says he passed a lie detector test, but what do we know about the lie detector test? Who administered it? What questions were asked? Were they primarily questions designed to go after Conte more so than Mosley himself?

          It doesn't take a genius to know that when someone tells you "you can call it flaxseed oil" that something is up. He may have just kept asking Conte and them "is this on the banned substance list?" After they tell him no (they made undetectable drugs), Shane can say "I didn't know it was cheating".


          Mosley told Nedrow he thought the clear was actually flaxseed oil, a similar argument to the one used by Barry Bonds and other athletes who have been accused of using "the clear," before admitting that it was probably something else.

          Nedrow: "Did they actually say it was flaxseed oil, or did they say: 'You can call it flaxseed oil?' What did they say about it?"

          Mosley: "You're right, 'You can call it flaxseed - it flaxseed oil,' basically what they said."

          Nedrow then goes on to say: "Okay. And I'm sorry. Let me clarify one thing. Because we've heard testimony that some people really thought it was flaxseed oil and some people said: 'Well, this is some stuff I have for you but we'll call it flaxseed oil.' If you know that difference."

          Mosley: "Okay, okay. It was kind of like, you know (indicating) flaxseed, we'll call it 'flaxseed oil,' it's not - it's kind of like that (indicating) like you said."

          Nedrow: "Like - quotation marks."

          Mosley: "It's (indicating) 'flaxseed oil,' but I believe it was probably - "

          Nedrow: "Something else?"

          Mosley: "I guess it was something else, yeah."



          Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...#ixzz0bmMoN6SV

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            #35
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            I don't know if somebody could possibly not know since there are so many PED out there that I don't know how some of them are taken... For example Roy Jones took some stuff that you could buy over the counter. If you can go to a store and be able to buy it how can you think is illegal?

            But, as a fighter, as an athlete in general. In this day and age you should be more responsible. You should every little detail of what you are taking. I know some athletes are not like that. They hire a personal to worry about all that. But, really that is just being irresponsible.

            I also know some boxers who get injected with B12 shots on there stomach. Could those B12 shots have some PED's on them without the fighter knowing? Maybe I think so is not out of the question...
            Not for nothing but Roy Jones tested positive for an anabolic steroid. Roy Jones - an Olympic medalist wit an extensive amateur and professional career. I doubt very much he didn't know what RIPPED FUEL had in them.

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              #36
              Originally posted by project xxx1
              im not sure and correct me if im wrong,the guy who use to inject mosley is the one who snitched on him,if thats true what did mosley think he was being injected with?
              I honestly dont know who snitched and really dont know too much about how the Mosley/Balco unfolded to speculate.

              Im not so sure Mosley was injeceting? I know they had the cream and the clear but thats about it, I dont know i they injected or consumed it?

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                #37
                Originally posted by braddman
                Mosley knew, this is his way out. He HAS to lie, just like James Toney, Fernando Vargas, and now Shannon "270 pounds of muscle" Briggs is lying.
                of course he knew,he still looks guilty,wouldnt surprize me if he was still on some sort of special supplement

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Xcusemymood
                  I honestly dont know who snitched and really dont know too much about how the Mosley/Balco unfolded to speculate.

                  Im not so sure Mosley was injeceting? I know they had the cream and the clear but thats about it, I dont know i they injected or consumed it?
                  Mosley injected stuff in his stomach.

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                  • Xcusemymood
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by braddman
                    Like I said, a trainer is NOT going to risk everything he owns for life to slip someone a steroid. That's just ******ed. He would be sued until he died.
                    Are you sure?

                    Margarito? Panama Lewis? They didnt slip steriods but sure didnt some other shady stuff.....also its not Roach giving Pac anything its Ariza, who could be similar to Conte in this circumstance.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Xcusemymood
                      Are you sure?

                      Margarito? Panama Lewis? They didnt slip steriods but sure didnt some other shady stuff.....also its not Roach giving Pac anything its Ariza, who could be similar to Conte in this circumstance.
                      Stop speculating, that's what the entire Mayweather camp does.

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