Alleged Steroid Use? HGH or EPO?

[TriPHP]

I just need to ask about the form of Steroid allegedly being used by Pacquiao. Is it HGH or EPO or both?

HGH
HGH can only be detected by blood as of the moment per WADA: http://ringtalk.com/exclusive-wada-h...lood#more-5948

But per one of the sellers of HGH, it needs to be cycled AS LOW AS 0.028 iu/kg/daily for 24 WEEKS!....and the effect will be felt within 2 months: http://www.allsteroidsworld.com/lib-...h-Hormone.html

HGH can be detected via blood within 24 weeks! We know Pacquiao agreed to be blood tested 30 days prior and after the fight right? That takes HGH off the list.

EPO
Now EPO is a better bet. It is also being suggested by Victor Conte of Balco. It only needs to be used within 14 days and can only be detected within 48 hours so it only leaves us a 15/16 days span to successfully catch an EPO user. We all know Pacquiao wants a 30 day window. So it must be EPO right? Wrong! EPO can be best detected by urine. The same test used by WADA in the 2004 and 2008 Olympics and we all know Pacquiao agreed to unlimited and random urine test right?!

http://www.allsteroidsworld.com/lib-EPO.html

http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/epo.html

http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php

So what is he using if not EPO or HGH?

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The post above is not originally from me but from a boxing fan with the handle hack__you

[Thread Stealer]

From what I've heard, EPO/blood doping is more beneficial for a boxer.

Margaret Goodman called it a "perfect drug" for boxers to use.

[jobra]

Really!? Are those the only two PED he could use?

[TriPHP]

From what I've heard, EPO/blood doping is more beneficial for a boxer.

EPO can be detected best by urine testing according to the two links above. And Pacquiao agree to unlimited urine tests, so?

[Prime 407]

Doesn't matter what you say, the *****'s will always come back with the argument that there are top secret PED's that no one knows about or can test for.... For all we know we could all be taking PED's.... the argument goes round n round in circles...

[JcourT]

EPO can be picked up in a urine test but it is much easier to get blocking agents for a urine test and virtually impossible for a blood test

[TriPHP]

Really!? Are those the only two PED he could use?

So can you list them?

Does it make you faster in terms of foot speed and hand speed? Can it make your chin strong enough than normal? Does it enable you to throw punches at uncommon angles?

[JcourT]

So can you list them?

Does it make you faster in terms of foot speed and hand speed? Can it make your chin strong enough than normal? Does it enable you to throw punches at uncommon angles?

http://www.baseballssteroidera.com/bse-all-performance-enhancing-drugs-list-baseball.html

Theres a good list for you, theres about 25 of them there and i would say that most if not all of the drugs that would help out a baseball player would also help a boxer

[jobra]

So can you list them?

Does it make you faster in terms of foot speed and hand speed? Can it make your chin strong enough than normal? Does it enable you to throw punches at uncommon angles?

Im no PED expert so no i cant. However its just ignorant that you think those are the only PED that can possibly help him. Im sure there are countless steroids that would help a boxer move up in weight while retaining muscle and speed. Barry bonds went from being scrawny with not much power to being the most feared batter. FYI i think he's clean, but his move up in weight does raise questions.

[niceguy45]

EPO most def....