Here It Is: Team Pac Wrong - Team Mayweather Correct

[Pullcounter]

i want Pacquiao to be 110% but i don't want him to be juiced up neither and i think he should take the test because that **** about it will affect him mentally sounds like some bull**** to me i mean what Pac is not mentally strong enough to know that a blood test won't make him weak give me break

and it's Floyds right to ask that Pacquiao be tested he is the one thats going to be fighting him nobody else

"That study is a classic in the annals of research on the "nocebo" phenomenon, the evil twin of the placebo effect. While the placebo effect refers to health benefits produced by a treatment that should have no effect, patients experiencing the nocebo effect experience the opposite. They presume the worst, health-wise, and that's just what they get."



read this then get back to me.

[Boss Don]

floyds a true warrior asking for olympic style tests without proof and isn't apart of the commission rules.

floyds a warrior for not fighting mosley because of 5 losses, or p williams because of his height.

why is their a witchhunt against pac whan the known ducker gets a pass with his baseless demands.

Mike Tyson was the baddest man on the planet and he asked for extra testing when he fought Holyfield maybe Pacquiao should take a page from Evander

In 1996, Mike Tyson requested additional drug testing for his bout with Holyfield. Holyfield agreed "I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew that a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt"

Floyd called out Mosley twice before his 5 losses but Mosley didn't to fight now he is at the end of his career and needs a big money fight so what Floyd is suppose to be his payday?? and Paul Williams why don't you tell Mosley to fight Paul Williams?

and these baseless demands as you call them didn't seem to bother Arthur Abraham

In March 2009, Boxer Arthur Abraham (currently fighting in the super 6 tournament) agreed to Olympic style drug testing by the National Anti-Doping Agency (Nada) in Germany.

i guess Pacquiao is just to good all praise Pacquiao

[Pullcounter]

Do you suspect they used more than once?

in my opinion:

low possibility
low probability
no certainty

[Pullcounter]

Mike Tyson was the baddest man on the planet and he asked for extra testing when he fought Holyfield maybe Pacquiao should take a page from Evander

In 1996, Mike Tyson requested additional drug testing for his bout with Holyfield. Holyfield agreed "I wasn't worried about the test, and I knew that a refusal would be taken as evidence of guilt"

Floyd called out Mosley twice before his 5 losses but Mosley didn't to fight now he is at the end of his career and needs a big money fight so what Floyd is suppose to be his payday?? and Paul Williams why don't you tell Mosley to fight Paul Williams?

and these baseless demands as you call them didn't seem to bother Arthur Abraham

In March 2009, Boxer Arthur Abraham (currently fighting in the super 6 tournament) agreed to Olympic style drug testing by the National Anti-Doping Agency (Nada) in Germany.

i guess Pacquiao is just to good all praise Pacquiao

innocent until proven guilty.

[IMDAZED]

in my opinion:

low possibility
low probability
no certainty

Well yes, if you think there's a high probability that they only used once then I can understand where you're coming from, Dorothy. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm about to share a clean needle with Uncle Evander.

[M.I.C.]

Like did the Pac Supporters actually read the article. This is from a person who worked with the Commission, is a doctor, has been in the ring working with fighters.....sheesh, how many times did we see her saving Chico from further beatings??

In my mind, there is no longer a need to argue, this issue from a logical standpoint is a wrap and Team Mayweather is right and Team Pac is wrong. Pac should simply say I dont want to test becaue I dont like it. They trying to make it a legal thing, and the rules, and the commission this, commission that. Dude just say you dont like it and dont even give a reason for not liking it, cause "weaken me" is pretty weak.

[Lady Fan]

- HGH is undetectable via a urine test
- The detection window (or the time you can tell someone has been using HGH) for a blood test is 72 hours from its use

That means you could take HGH up until 72 hours before a test, go off of it, and still appear clean during a blood test. It also means that you could take HGH by the pound, undergo a urine test every day you took it and you'd always come out looking clean.

Those two facts above are the reason why the Olympics require blood tests and they're also the reason that MLB, NCAA, NBA, NFL, MLS and the PGA Tour for God's sake all require random drug testing. To do it any other way would allow athletes to game the system by cycling on and off HGH and many other performance-enhancing drugs.

Any time you want more just let me know.

Have you read this? Please refute it if you can.

This article is based on this (facts)

http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com/steroid-profiles/hgh.html

Quote:
USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:

A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.

There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-31983.html

[p4p-champ]

If Nevada employs a 40 year old drug testing method then doesn't it make sense that athletes will have found ways to beat it by now? If a Professor gives the same test every semester, wouldnt students have on file the well established cheat sheet?

Clearly, but the *******s are ok with keeping things as is. After all, if Pacman doesn't want better drug testing procedures for the better of boxing, why should they?

[Bigchill79]

PacMan's team have been wrong from the start. Tired of clowns making excuses 4 him

[Lady Fan]

Clearly, but the *******s are ok with keeping things as is. After all, if Pacman doesn't want better drug testing procedures for the better of boxing, why should they?

Irrelevant argument, you're twisting things around to the benefit of Floyd's "Whims." It was never the intention of Pretty Boy to all-of-a-sudden think about getting better testing procedures for boxing. You've closed your eyes to the fact that Mayweather and Associates had launched a "Smear Campaign" against Pacquiao to discredit his legitimacy as a "Great and Clean" fighter of this sport. This conspiracy was concocted out of jealousy and is being flagrantly used. JAT