Here It Is: Team Pac Wrong - Team Mayweather Correct

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  • Pullcounter
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    #81
    Originally posted by Calilloyd
    That's nice but it has nothing to do with what I said. Some PED are not detected in urine and that's common knowledge. Apparently you didn't read what the TS posted.
    did you even read it?

    A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight.

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    • Lady Fan
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      #82
      Originally posted by Calilloyd
      That's nice but it has nothing to do with what I said. Some PED are not detected in urine and that's common knowledge. Apparently you didn't read what the TS posted.
      Can I get a list of all these PED's that are not detected in urine? That's if you have this "Common Knowledge" of course.

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      • Gutz
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        #83
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        link please that says NSAC is using a 40 year old testing method.


        They like to make **** up..


        Like how they made up Pac is on Roid .. Cause the truth is Floyd is scared of Pac..

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          #84
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Whether it's 40 years or not, it sucks.
          link or it didn't happen.

          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          I'm not trying to prove anything.
          its up to you to prove that they were using steroids on more than one occasion

          I asked a simple question (at least I thought it was). Do you believe those guys only used once?
          do you believe that they used PED more than once? evidence please?

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            #85
            Originally posted by DLT
            Wouldnt it be crazy if Floyd actually was the one that made boxing implement these drug test and people will be talking about it for many years?
            It would be good for boxing but not good for boxing promotors.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              link or it didn't happen.


              its up to you to prove that they were using steroids on more than one occasion



              do you believe that they used PED more than once? evidence please?
              Wow, just wow.

              Anyway, yes personally I believe that if you have done it once, chances are that you probably did it again. Do you believe they only did it that one time?

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              • Calilloyd
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                #87
                Originally posted by Lady Fan 2
                Can I get a list of all these PED's that are not detected in urine? That's if you have this "Common Knowledge" of course.
                - HGH is undetectable via a urine test
                - The detection window (or the time you can tell someone has been using HGH) for a blood test is 72 hours from its use


                That means you could take HGH up until 72 hours before a test, go off of it, and still appear clean during a blood test. It also means that you could take HGH by the pound, undergo a urine test every day you took it and you'd always come out looking clean.

                Those two facts above are the reason why the Olympics require blood tests and they're also the reason that MLB, NCAA, NBA, NFL, MLS and the PGA Tour for God's sake all require random drug testing. To do it any other way would allow athletes to game the system by cycling on and off HGH and many other performance-enhancing drugs.

                Any time you want more just let me know.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  did you even read it?
                  What does that have to do with whether urine is ineffective? You keep talking about blood and I never mentioned blood.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by M.I.C.
                    You dont understand that you cycle PEDs in and out your system based on a schedule?
                    PLEASE COUNTER THESE FACTS WITH SOMETHING, ANYTHING IF YOU CAN!

                    This article is based on this (facts)



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                    USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing

                    Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:


                    A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.

                    No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.

                    It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
                    There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2

                    Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.

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                    • Gutz
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Calilloyd
                      - HGH is undetectable via a urine test
                      - The detection window (or the time you can tell someone has been using HGH) for a blood test is 72 hours from its use


                      That means you could take HGH up until 72 hours before a test, go off of it, and still appear clean during a blood test. It also means that you could take HGH by the pound, undergo a urine test every day you took it and you'd always come out looking clean.

                      Those two facts above are the reason why the Olympics require blood tests and they're also the reason that MLB, NCAA, NBA, NFL, MLS and the PGA Tour for God's sake all require random drug testing. To do it any other way would allow athletes to game the system by cycling on and off HGH and many other performance-enhancing drugs.

                      Any time you want more just let me know.


                      HGH is useless cause you dont get any type of benfits in a 30 day time frame.

                      Try again..

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