Pacquiao Weakened by Blood Test Before the First Morales Fight (2005)!

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The idea that asking for more stringent drug testing is some cowardly de****able act is mind boggling to me. Do you think that there is any possibility that Pacquiao or Mayweather may be using something that's against the rules? Wouldn't more stringent testing help lower the chances that either fighter will be able to get away with doing so for this fight? Are you a boxing fan or jkust a Pacquiao nuthugger?

You keep talking about what RJJ has said, when he was caught dirty after one of his fights. No surprise that a guy who was caught using something against the rules would be against more stringent testing. He probably wishes he never submitted to testing after the fight that he got caught. Do you really want to use someone who was caught cheating to support your stance on this?

Typical answer coming from people who have lost all sense of rationality. Shoot the messenger and discard message. What I was expecting you to do is look inside the deepest recesses of your brain and try searching for something that makes sense. I was asking a simple question, do you think agreeing to a test right after the fight isn't good enough? Pacquiao is not totally disagreeing with the idea, which to me is idiotic, if I were him. It's strange to me that you people are crucifying him and let the guy who started it all go unscathed.

Here's the question: "Do you honestly believe that Pacquiao is using steroids?" Yes or no.

[thatnickuh]

Typical answer coming from people who have lost all sense of rationality. Shoot the messenger and discard message. What I was expecting you to do is look inside the deepest recesses of your brain and try searching for something that makes sense. I was asking a simple question, do you think agreeing to a test right after the fight isn't good enough?

It doesn't matter if I think that a test after the fight is good enough. I'm not the one who's going to be in the ring. Neither are you, RJJ, or anybody else you want to bring up. Obvioulsy Mayweather doesn't feel that a test after the fight is good enough. He's the only one that matters since he's the only one who will be in the ring with Pacquiao. Why is it so hard for you to get that through your thick*ss head?

Pacquiao is not totally disagreeing with the idea, which to me is idiotic, if I were him. It's strange to me that you people are crucifying him and let the guy who started it all go unscathed.

Here's the question: "Do you honestly believe that Pacquiao is using steroids?" Yes or no.

You are too much. You come up here disrespecting Mayweather calling him a coward and all of that just because he wants more stringent testing, yet you have the nerve to accuse me of "crucifying" Pacquiao? I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao. I haven't even accused him of being dirty. The only thing that I've said is that him refusing to agree to random blood testing and threatening to walk away from a bout with Mayweather over the issue looks fishy. I don't know if Pacquiao or Mayweather use PEDs. I do know that Mayweather is willing to subject himself to random blood testing to prove that he isn't, while Pacquiao refuses. Pacquiao's reaction to Mayweather's request makes it look like he has something to hide.

I notice that you refused to answer my question though. Quite telling.

[jqSide]

It doesn't matter if I think that a test after the fight is good enough. I'm not the one who's going to be in the ring. Neither are you, RJJ, or anybody else you want to bring up. Obvioulsy Mayweather doesn't feel that a test after the fight is good enough. He's the only one that matters since he's the only one who will be in the ring with Pacquiao. Why is it so hard for you to get that through your thick*ss head?

So what's the problem? It's not you or I who's going to be in the ring as you said. Pacquiao rejects FM's demands, which he as the right to. Why can't you live with that? He's he that insignificant to you that it's easy for you to crucify him because he rejects all your idol's demands?

You are too much. You come up here disrespecting Mayweather calling him a coward and all of that just because he wants more stringent testing, yet you have the nerve to accuse me of "crucifying" Pacquiao? I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao. I haven't even accused him of being dirty. The only thing that I've said is that him refusing to agree to random blood testing and threatening to walk away from a bout with Mayweather over the issue looks fishy. I don't know if Pacquiao or Mayweather use PEDs. I do know that Mayweather is willing to subject himself to random blood testing to prove that he isn't, while Pacquiao refuses. Pacquiao's reaction to Mayweather's request makes it look like he has something to hide.

I notice that you refused to answer my question though. Quite telling.

You said "I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao." Who exactly is stopping you? You can say anything malicious about him and I wouldn't give a flying t****ze about it. This whole idea of demanding a fellow fighter (regardless who they are) to submit to rules beyond what is in place is wrong! If the tables were turned, ie, Pacquiao asking such ****** demands, I'll side with FM. Plain and simple. That's the intelligent way of seeing it.

The only possible reason why such demand is being insisted is fear. Fear of losing. That's cowardice.

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So what's the problem? It's not you or I who's going to be in the ring as you said. Pacquiao rejects FM's demands, which he as the right to. Why can't you live with that? He's he that insignificant to you that it's easy for you to crucify him because he rejects all your idol's demands?



You said "I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao." Who exactly is stopping you? You can say anything malicious about him and I wouldn't give a flying t****ze about it. This whole idea of demanding a fellow fighter (regardless who they are) to submit to rules beyond what is in place is wrong! If the tables were turned, ie, Pacquiao asking such ****** demands, I'll side with FM. Plain and simple. That's the intelligent way of seeing it.

The only possible reason why such demand is being insisted is fear. Fear of losing. That's cowardice.

Manny does not have a right to say no , this is PEDS in sport we are talking about not ring size or gloves its a very big issue in all sport , no athlete can say no , no clean athlete would say no , no athlete in the history of sport has said no , Manny has no right to deny a testing procedure without being looked at as highly su****ious .

Floyd only has to think maybe Manny is on them and its his right to ask for the testing that he has , Manny as a high profile leading Sportsman in the public eye has moral obligation to world sport to take the tests .

Im not even going to get into your cowardice bull**** ,because in this fight Manny is ducking not Floyd and thats as plain as daylight .

[boxaholic]

No sauce=Weakened Performance
Suace n No detected test=Strength

This is not true. Pac take the Random Test.

[jqSide]

Manny does not have a right to say no , this is PEDS in sport we are talking about not ring size or gloves its a very big issue in all sport , no athlete can say no , no clean athlete would say no , no athlete in the history of sport has said no , Manny has no right to deny a testing procedure without being looked at as highly su****ious .

Floyd only has to think maybe Manny is on them and its his right to ask for the testing that he has , Manny as a high profile leading Sportsman in the public eye has moral obligation to world sport to take the tests .

Im not even going to get into your cowardice bull**** ,because in this fight Manny is ducking not Floyd and thats as plain as daylight .

Call a spade a spade. Imposing rules beyond the boundary of boxing sport is ducking. There's no way around it. He's scared **** of the Pacman.

[thatnickuh]

So what's the problem? It's not you or I who's going to be in the ring as you said. Pacquiao rejects FM's demands, which he as the right to. Why can't you live with that? He's he that insignificant to you that it's easy for you to crucify him because he rejects all your idol's demands?



You said "I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao." Who exactly is stopping you? You can say anything malicious about him and I wouldn't give a flying t****ze about it. This whole idea of demanding a fellow fighter (regardless who they are) to submit to rules beyond what is in place is wrong! If the tables were turned, ie, Pacquiao asking such ****** demands, I'll side with FM. Plain and simple. That's the intelligent way of seeing it.

The only possible reason why such demand is being insisted is fear. Fear of losing. That's cowardice.

I can live with Pacquiao not agreeing to the more stringent testing and walking away from a fight with Mayweather. There will just be an asterisk beside his name in my mind. To me, he looks as if he has something to hide if he walks away from Mayweather because of the drug testing issue. Either that, or he's just flat out scared. You can continue to falsely accuse me of crucifying Pacquiao all you want, but it just proves my point that you're an unreasonable groupie.

I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao or Mayweather because I choose not to. Not because I care what you think. I don't have a reason to disrespect either one of those guys. I'm a boxing fan. I don't know either one of them personally, so why would I disrespect them? That's the difference between you and I. You're not a boxing fan, you're a female Pacquiao groupie. I've looked at this situation from both sides while you're completely biased. Your whole way of looking at this issue is just plain dumb. You keep talking about how Mayweather is wrong for asking Pacquiao to submit to stricter drug testing than what's already in place, but you completely ignore the FACT that the there are huge holes in the current drug testing policy that Boxing uses, and that there are numerous ways to beat it. Plus the rules in boxing are negotiated on a fight by fight basis. Your dumb ass keeps repeating this BS about abiding by the rules that are already in place and that excuse has already been refuted. The ten million dollar penalty wasn't a rule that was already in place, was it? That didn't stop Pacquiao from requesting that clause for this particular fight, did it? Not only are you not too smart, you are closeminded to the point that you don't even listen to people who are smarter than you are. You're a trip my man.

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I can live with Pacquiao not agreeing to the more stringent testing and walking away from a fight with Mayweather. There will just be an asterisk beside his name in my mind. To me, he looks as if he has something to hide if he walks away from Mayweather because of the drug testing issue. Either that, or he's just flat out scared. You can continue to falsely accuse me of crucifying Pacquiao all you want, but it just proves my point that you're an unreasonable groupie.

I haven't said anything disrespectful towards Pacquiao or Mayweather because I choose not to. Not because I care what you think. I don't have a reason to disrespect either one of those guys. I'm a boxing fan. I don't know either one of them personally, so why would I disrespect them? That's the difference between you and I. You're not a boxing fan, you're a female Pacquiao groupie. I've looked at this situation from both sides while you're completely biased. Your whole way of looking at this issue is just plain dumb. You keep talking about how Mayweather is wrong for asking Pacquiao to submit to stricter drug testing than what's already in place, but you completely ignore the FACT that the there are huge holes in the current drug testing policy that Boxing uses, and that there are numerous ways to beat it. Plus the rules in boxing are negotiated on a fight by fight basis. Your dumb ass keeps repeating this BS about abiding by the rules that are already in place and that excuse has already been refuted. The ten million dollar penalty wasn't a rule that was already in place, was it? That didn't stop Pacquiao from requesting that clause for this particular fight, did it? Not only are you not too smart, you are closeminded to the point that you don't even listen to people who are smarter than you are. You're a trip my man.

if pac takes the blood test while he's cutting weight he will be effected by it psychologically and mentally. IMHO, pac gave blood during the hatton fight, so however far that appointment was from the fight should be ok for pac to give blood.

[fightingfigs]

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Why'd he do it, NSAC asked him to, not Morales.

This was back i 2005, 5 years ago when he was actually draining himself to make weight. That would be like DLH at 147 drawing blood and losing strength.

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This was back i 2005, 5 years ago when he was actually draining himself to make weight. That would be like DLH at 147 drawing blood and losing strength.

pac still has to cut weight to make 147 lbs. its not a physcial thing, it's a psychological/mental thing.