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  • #61
    Originally posted by Ray` View Post
    Fine, Manny pac himself said what he said not me not Arum which was a 30 day cut-off, Arum came out and said we would leave it to the Commission to decide and if the commission says do it then we would do it, Then Schaefer came out and said that isnt going to work since the commission isnt in charge of what goes on a contract and i agree with schaefer, The commission doesnt tell you what weight you agree on or How much money you have to pay if you're over the weight limit so why should they get involve with contract dispute between two teams?

    I understood it as Manny agreeing to get tested if forced to by the commission, but not Floyd. And really, Floyd should have no say. If he thinks he'd spank Manny, then just fight. But he doesn't seem to want that. Commission SHOULD handle things like that. That's not ability related, but deals with foreign substances. Kinda like them checking older fighters, to see if they're fit enough to fight. May not be in contract, but so what?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by ncpitbull View Post
      So you are under the assumption, that for each blood test, each athelete loses a day of training??? Please explain further, I never lost any days of training, and I have take plenty of drug screenings.

      Where I found the contradiction was the statement that you could COMPROMISE, without either party budging in their stances??? Now since you included a "LAME" attachment, please explain to me, HOW A COMPROMISE CAN BE REACHED, without either side budging in their stances? I really would like for you to explain how a compromised is reached without mutual concession?

      Compromise: settlement of differences by mutual concessions; an agreement reached by adjustment of conflicting or opposing claims, principles, etc., by reciprocal modification of demands

      I'm not saying that. But Manny seems to be affected more then average Joe. I think it is fair for him to insist on non-intrusion of that magnitude(for him) during training for a fight with one of the best ever, at a weight that's well above where he started. Mental focus is important during training, wouldn't you agree?

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      • #63
        if pac does not cave, hes just admiting hes dirty...

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        • #64
          Originally posted by ncpitbull View Post
          So you are under the assumption, that for each blood test, each athelete loses a day of training??? Please explain further, I never lost any days of training, and I have take plenty of drug screenings.

          Where I found the contradiction was the statement that you could COMPROMISE, without either party budging in their stances??? Now since you included a "LAME" attachment, please explain to me, HOW A COMPROMISE CAN BE REACHED, without either side budging in their stances? I really would like for you to explain how a compromised is reached without mutual concession?

          Compromise: settlement of differences by mutual concessions; an agreement reached by adjustment of conflicting or opposing claims, principles, etc., by reciprocal modification of demands
          Lame sign was due to your usage of the wrong word

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          • #65
            Originally posted by djinferno View Post
            if pac does not cave, hes just admiting hes dirty...
            Or just doesn't want to be forced by another camp, and also be forced to be drained by the tests, even if he needs only a few hours of rest after each one. Since Floyd said that he'd get whooped "as is", why the problem with needing a test?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Easy Work Sr. View Post
              no one from team mayweather has ever said Matt Hatton is an option...he will fight Mosley next
              Agree, they said was 2nd option if PAC didn´t go thru..

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              • #67
                Originally posted by DigitalBeast View Post
                Lame sign was due to your usage of the wrong word
                What "usage of the wrong word" was that professor?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by djinferno View Post
                  if pac does not cave, hes just admiting hes dirty...
                  Maybe not...This seems like a pissing contest (pardon the pun), at this point. Manny feels he's not only the P4P king, but also higher up on the GOAT ladder than Floyd. We are living in a unique age of boxing where two guys, now basically at the same size, are vying for the claim of greatest of the era, and possibly top ten all time. It shouldn't be underestimated how much things like legacy, public perception, street cred, and "shot-caller" status figuers into the mind of athletes such as these. Dollars aside, both guys are now in the position of having to give in to the other one's demands, and "the man" never wants "a *****" to take anything from him, or be told what to do by someone he claims is inferior...real Alpha Male type-stuff. This will quietly be resolved and we'll have a fight on March 13th...and the PPV buys will probably have been increased by 10-20%.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by DigitalBeast View Post
                    I'm not saying that. But Manny seems to be affected more then average Joe. I think it is fair for him to insist on non-intrusion of that magnitude(for him) during training for a fight with one of the best ever, at a weight that's well above where he started. Mental focus is important during training, wouldn't you agree?
                    Well, I could give you my opinion or what sounds good, LOL. My opinion is that if he can not focus during training camp, that's his problem. Just my opinion, but I have heard people on these forums compare Manny to Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, and the Pernell Whitakers's of the world. Maybe my standard is different, but I don't care to hear any whimpering from an all time great "How can not focus during training camp". This is just my opinion, you asked me and I told you.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by millcitymauler View Post
                      Maybe not...This seems like a pissing contest (pardon the pun), at this point. Manny feels he's not only the P4P king, but also higher up on the GOAT ladder than Floyd. We are living in a unique age of boxing where two guys, now basically at the same size, are vying for the claim of greatest of the era, and possibly top ten all time. It shouldn't be underestimated how much things like legacy, public perception, street cred, and "shot-caller" status figuers into the mind of athletes such as these. Dollars aside, both guys are now in the position of having to give in to the other one's demands, and "the man" never wants "a *****" to take anything from him, or be told what to do by someone he claims is inferior...real Alpha Male type-stuff. This will quietly be resolved and we'll have a fight on March 13th...and the PPV buys will probably have been increased by 10-20%.
                      Good statement, I agree.

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