Pacquiao vs Mayweather: Breaking Down The Accusations

**civicvx** · 01-02-2010, 07:18 AM

Mayweather is a chicken because if I recalled correctly, Pacquiao was suppose to be easy work, easy fight, maybe easier than the Marquez fight.

**carts** · 01-02-2010, 07:31 AM

yeah he said that easy fight easy fight lol....

**project xxx1** · 01-02-2010, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by civicvx

Mayweather is a chicken because if I recalled correctly, Pacquiao was suppose to be easy work, easy fight, maybe easier than the Marquez fight.

and if i recall propley,roach said that pbf would be easier than cotto and manny battered cotto,so why not just take the random test and and batter floyd and take home a easy 40 million?

**civicvx** · 01-02-2010, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by project xxx1

and if i recall propley,roach said that pbf would be easier than cotto and manny battered cotto,so why not just take the random test and and batter floyd and take home a easy 40 million?

That's from Roach mouth and not Manny. Easy work was from Floyd own mouth on national tv interview.

**El_Cholo** · 01-02-2010, 07:56 AM

There are reasons why boxing is the only sport that consistently translates into great art, and they are the same reasons it is viewed with su****ion by many modern sports fans.

The boxing world is dark, dangerous and amoral, the sporting equivalent of the Wild West: no-one seems to know who's in charge, and many seem not to care. This apparently lawless environment froths with characters living by their own laws, while those in the civilised and sanitised world avert their gaze, genuinely amazed that such chicanery still goes on.

Some will doubtless accuse me of overstating my case in a fit of journalistic hysteria, but they will be those who haven't been following the unravelling story of Floyd Mayweather v Manny Pacquiao, the Fight of the Century that might never happen.

When negotiations for the fight came grinding to a halt two days before Christmas, I laid much of the blame at the door of Mayweather, who was insisting Philippines legend Pacquiao be subjected to random drug testing in the lead-up to the fight, which had been slated for 13 March, probably in Las Vegas.

My belief was that Mayweather was grandstanding, attempting to score psychological points, and that Pacquiao would soon put his pride aside and agree to play ball. In short, I thought Mayweather and his camp were just playing silly beggars.

Now, however, it is Pacquiao's reputation that is in the spotlight, whether he's guilty of any wrongdoing or not. Why, fans are asking, doesn't he just take the tests?

"I will provide any specimen, whether it be blood or urine samples, just right after the fight, but not a day or two before, for obvious reasons," fired back a furious Pacquiao. Problem is, Manny, the reasons aren't obvious at all.

Travis Tygart, the chief of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, who Mayweather's camp wants to oversee the testing, told the New York Times that not being blood tested in the 30 days prior to the fight, as Pacquiao is insisting on, "is totally unacceptable".

Tygart claimed "it would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through," before pointing out that basketball star Kobe Bryant and swimming great Michael Phelps have both undergone random testing of this type. If it's good enough for Bryant and Phelps, why not Pacquiao?

Meanwhile, the sheriffs in Mayweather's camp have been tying themselves up in knots with contradictory statements.

Head of Golden Boy promotions Richard Schaefer, whose outfit is representing Mayweather, has been nagging in his insistence that Pacquiao agree to random testing, yet it has emerged that Schaefer turned down Zab Judah's request for additional testing before his scheduled fight with Shane Mosley in 2008.

In an interview with the Associated Press, Schaefer said Mosley would not agree to "other tests than the Nevada [Athletic] Commission requires. The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one". So, pretty much what Pacquiao is saying now then.

Mosley, it should also be noted, has admitted to unwittingly using illegal substances in the past.

There's the intrigue, now for the comedy. If the fight does fall through, Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum has suggested his man will fight New Yorker Paulie Malignaggi instead.

This is the same Paulie Malignaggi who was torn to shreds by Ricky Hatton in Las Vegas last year, and the same Paulie Malignaggi who, following Pacquiao's savage destruction of Miguel Cotto last month, hinted in a raft of interviews that Pacquiao's rise through the weight divisions has been fuelled by performance-enhancing drugs.

Meanwhile, Hatton's younger brother Matthew, who has never even fought for a British title, has confirmed his representatives are in talks to fight Mayweather in the UK if the Pacquiao bout falls through.

"At first I thought it was a wind-up when my name was mentioned for Mayweather," said Hatton, echoing the thoughts of just about everyone else. A rematch with his older brother would have been a tough enough sell.

Matthew Hatton is a very respectable domestic fighter, but as far as Mayweather is concerned, it's the equivalent passing on a Beverly Hills date with Angelina Jolie and plumping for pie and mash with some actress off Eastenders instead.

Enough of the intrigue and the comedy, now for the tragedy. While the big shots are trashing the place, digging their spurs in and waving their pieces around with scant regard for the consequences, it's the poor saps who love boxing who are suffering.

There have been signs in recent years that those who run the sport are getting their act together, have finally realised that only by regularly matching the best against the best will boxing regain a foothold in the public consciousness.

To his credit, Pacquiao, who has ducked no-one, has been at the forefront of this revival, so too Mayweather, although to a lesser extent.

But if they are unable to put aside their differences and make this fight happen, there's a danger they'll be remembered by many for the wrong reason - not as the men who saved boxing, but as the men who turned their backs when boxing needed them most.

**jekbu** · 01-02-2010, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by project xxx1

and if i recall propley,roach said that pbf would be easier than cotto and manny battered cotto,so why not just take the random test and and batter floyd and take home a easy 40 million?

there is no random test in cotto's fight..

your point?

**badboypeenoy** · 01-02-2010, 08:26 AM

We should look back and see the articles written by Grand Rapid Press' Josh Slagter and David Mayo (see end of the video above). All these steriod/PED accusations started with them.

September 15, 2009, 2:10AM

Josh Slagter of the The Grand Rapids Press wrote an article on Mayweather Sr. accusing Pacquiao of steroid use.

September 16, 2009, 1:00PM

Josh Slagter writes another article pointing to Chris Robinson of Examiner.com's interview of Jeff Mayweather who said that "there are a lot of other people who feel Pacquiao is taking something as well... They are basing this on the fact that no other fighter has been able to rise so many weight classes while getting that ripped and muscular." The original story in the Examiner.com has since been deleted.

In another article on the same day he wrote "Floyd Mayweather Sr. claimed Monday that pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao is on "some kind of supplements," most likely steroids."

December 12, 2009

David Mayo of the The Grand Rapids Press wrote: "In a highly unconventional move, representatives of Floyd Mayweather are demanding that both their fighter and Manny Pacquiao be subjected to random, Olympic-style drug testing... Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather�s adviser, declined to comment whether the demand was based on su****ions, initially voiced by Floyd Mayweather Sr., and subsequently by others close to Mayweather, that Pacquiao uses performance-enhancing drugs."

December 22, 2009, 10:20PM

David Mayo of The Grand Rapids Press wrote a article saying that Mayweather Sr's, earlier "opinion" was validated by Pacquiao "refusing to submit himself to Olympic-style random testing". - note that now there is this stress on the word "opinion" to start the interview on September 15 and again on validation claims on the December 22 article, was he "consciously" shielding himself from a defamation suit.

In another article he wrote on the same day, he wrote "Pacquiao has passed every drug test administered after his fights but others in the boxing community -- most notably former world champions Paulie Malignaggi and Kermit Cintron -- have expressed some doubts since Mayweather Sr.�s initial statements." Then quotes Mayweather Sr., �That tells you right there, I was right,� Mayweather Sr. said Tuesday. �You have to think that way. Like I said from the start, that was just my opinion. It�s a lot of people�s opinion now. For that kind of money, how could you not take a test? There�s a reason. Just what I said is the reason, that�s it, right there.�

December 23, 2009, 10:30PM

In another Grand Rapids Press Article, David Mayo again brings back their old interview of Mayweather, Sr. saying "A lot of people thought Mayweather Sr. was a complete wacko for bringing it up at the time, but in the interim there have been some people who have raised their own su****ion, including a couple of former champions (Kermit Cintron and Paulie Malignaggi)," Mayo said. "The issue is the urine testing is not sufficient to test for (blood booster) EPO and HGH."

and in another article published on the same day, David mayo writes "The concern in the Mayweather camp is that if Pacquiao only submits to blood testing three times, he would have time to engorge performance-enhancers which can be masked from urine detection -- primarily HGH and the synthetic blood-boosting hormone EPO -- but easily detected by blood sampling."

December 24, 2009, 11:55AM

Josh Slagter of the The Grand Rapids Press in another article insinuates that USADA's Travis Tygart and WADA's Dr. Gary Wadler does not agree that the 3 bloodtest and random urine test Pacquaio was willing to submit himself to isn't enough, that blood tests are necessary and that it needs to be random. - Looking at WADA's own literature on the testing shows that though blood testing is recommended it is neither necessary nor needs to be random.

The same day, Slagter wrote another article based on Dela Hoya's blog saying "De La Hoya also has fought against Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas, two boxers who have been linked to performance-enhancing drugs... then he quotes De La Hoya, "I�m saying to myself, 'Wow. Those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same.' I�m not saying yes or no (about whether Pacquiao might be taking performance-enhancing drugs); I�m just saying that now people have to wonder: Why doesn�t he want to do this? Why is it such a big deal?"

December 29, 2009

Josh Slagter wrote "Miguel Cotto, who was stopped in the 12th round by Manny Pacquiao in November, says the Filipino boxer's request to avoid Olympic-style random blood testing for a potential March 13 fight against Floyd Mayweather raises questions... "Why in the world would he require restrictions or conditions for the tests? It is a golden opportunity for him to (dispel) all world-wide rumors surrounding his figure and use of enhancement drugs. His refusal to commit to the tests without conditions raises questions."

**R.M {7}** · 01-02-2010, 08:58 AM

Its a bit bias, yes, but this the best writen article concerning the issue in my opinion despite me being a floyd fan. Great find.

**Toxic** · 01-02-2010, 09:08 AM

Easy work Mayweather jr said

Just take the test they say

hmmmmmmmmmm

Pacquiao vs Mayweather: Breaking Down The Accusations