Comments Thread For: Pacquiao a Victim of His Own Success, Says McGuigan

[jrosales13]

I keep missing all the shows now

What did I miss?

Horus called in, Crilz called in, it was funny...

They got some discussion about the lower weight division. They talked about Alexander-Urango. A potential Pac-JMM fight. How can P-Will become a bigger star, who should retire in 2010. It was a cool show.

[arnold_jasper]

Irish boxing great Barry McGuigan says Manny Pacquiao is a victim of his own success. He hopes Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. are able to put aside their differences over the random Olympic-style blood tests and fight each other in 2010. He looks at the blood tests from both sides of the fence. [Click Here To Read More]

Great post. But again, I want to stress out that manny did not refuse the test. It was the RANDOM olympic style of testing that was refused. It is the style or manner and not the test itselt. Even if it is olympic style, manny will still agree to it as long as it is not RANDOM. Random means anytime a test can be done even before you walk in the center of the ring. Isn't it rediculous? Manny agreed right after the fight at his locker room or even in the ring. So what's the problem with that. He is just protecting himself from anything before the fight.

[arnold_jasper]

Victim of refusing to take a PED test plain and simple Take the test and clear your name put your doubters to shame.

Idiot, you don't understand. Manny never refused testing. He refused the RANDOM style and not the testing itselt. Do your research or read my post about random test so that you will understand about the word RANDOM.

[check hook]

Great post. But again, I want to stress out that manny did not refuse the test. It was the RANDOM olympic style of testing that was refused. It is the style or manner and not the test itselt. Even if it is olympic style, manny will still agree to it as long as it is not RANDOM. Random means anytime a test can be done even before you walk in the center of the ring. Isn't it rediculous? Manny agreed right after the fight at his locker room or even in the ring. So what's the problem with that. He is just protecting himself from anything before the fight.

Tests of any kind for PED's are useless if they are not random. A 30 day window of no testing prior to the fight is quite frankly ridiculous. If Manny had said i will give blood but not a week before (7 days max) then maybe we could all believe his ridiculous superstitions and it would be understandable. But putting aside your allegiance for a second you have to admit his position is far too inflexible. They have not even attempted a compromise even though Manny has given blood within a month before a fight on seperate occasions.

[HighFlyer]

A victim of a ****** team.

Why so mad at Team Pacquiao??
Are you Freddie Roach's EX-Girlfriend??

[DocG]

Link please?


If he was the fight would be sealed. I'm yet to see any statement from team pac that asserts they will accept random blood testing. Thus far their position has been a test 30 days before the fight and then after. HArdly random. 30 days is a massive window.

If this were true the fight we all want to see would be a done deal.

Random??? You're just echoing other narrow minded Mayduckers fans.....

What drug/s are they expected to see in a blood test randomly taken prior to a fight that cannot be seen with blood test taken few minutes after a fight???.....HGH.....

HGH has more drawbacks than benefits for an athlete........

What benefit does a drug do if it is easily wash-out in the bloodstream after a few hours........just think of it's half-life.........silly form of PED

[cherokee]

oh goodness me! the *****s with expertise in PEDS, steroids and EPOS and studied this subject for years are back again!

[GRUSTLER]

The reason why people are questioning Pac's power is
because at 130 he couldn't even put down JMM and he
knocked him down a total of 4 times in two fights and
almost if not lost both and now Homie is destroy guys
naturally bigger than him? I don't know if Pacquiao is or
isn't but he should just take the tests to set the record
and Mayweathers straight.

[GRUSTLER]

I don't have no sympathy for Pac because everyone says that
people are jealous of Pac's success? Why would the boxers fans
be? We're not getting nothing out of all of his success. We just
want to see a fight!!! People are talking about Pac and everyone
is all Boo Hoo but turn around and bash Floyd worst than anyone
can ever do Pac but then it's all good? Pac made things for him
get to this level. Why not agree to the tests team Mayweather
wanted considering Floyd was going to take it too? So the
biggest fight in history comes to a halt because Pacquiao doesn't
want Mayweather to get his way? BULL****! How many times
have Pacquiao gotten his way in negotiations? Jealous of Pac for
what? Just take the tests, prove everyone wrong Pac and make
the fight happen if there is nothing to hide.

[check hook]

I don't have no sympathy for Pac because everyone says that
people are jealous of Pac's success? Why would the boxers fans
be? We're not getting nothing out of all of his success. We just
want to see a fight!!! People are talking about Pac and everyone
is all Boo Hoo but turn around and bash Floyd worst than anyone
can ever do Pac but then it's all good? Pac made things for him
get to this level. Why not agree to the tests team Mayweather
wanted considering Floyd was going to take it too? So the
biggest fight in history comes to a halt because Pacquiao doesn't
want Mayweather to get his way? BULL****! How many times
have Pacquiao gotten his way in negotiations? Jealous of Pac for
what? Just take the tests, prove everyone wrong Pac and make
the fight happen if there is nothing to hide.

^
co-sign this post. Easy to just say yes to testing and be done with it. No excuses team Pac have given are legitimate.


- superstition
- trypanophobia
- physical weakness
- heamatoma around extraction site


the only logical conclusion an intelligent and logical person would come up with is that they simply do not want to fight Floyd.....at least not on the 13th of March.