Comments Thread For: Lack of Vision Hinders The Sport of Boxing

[j69madrox]

Good article. He aint lying.

[boxing77]

Aint gonna happen, pretty "boy" will only be competing in the olympics,and pac"man"will go back to fighting top fighters!!!!oh yeah and the latest, hes in the process of signing a contract with the wwe!!!

[F l i c k e r]

MAINSTREAM MARKETING.


Why the **** do you think Nike signed Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Roger Federer, Tiger Woods, Serena and Venus Williams, even Manny Pacquiao?

Because they APPEAR THE MOST in their respective sports. The most casual of basketball fans will know MJ and Kobe. The most casual tennis fan will know Federer, Venus, and Serena. The most casual golfer will know Tiger. The most casual boxing fan(85% of fans from the phillipines) will know Pacman.

Why the **** do you think American Idol is so great? It's on ****ing fox. Not HBO. Why do you think WWE is so ****in popular even though everyone and their 90 year old grandmother knows its fake? Because it is on USA and WGN.

IF YOU MARKET TO THE MAINSTREAM YOU WILL GET MAINSTREAM ATTENTION.

If you continue showing fights only on HBO and Showtime. Only the people who know boxing will watch it. Do you think all those seats at the MGM are filled with hardcore boxing fans? NO. Why? Because they have a big ass sign out in Vegas, a big ass titantron, showing who is fighting. Along with their ****in 24/7 trailers.

If boxing goes to the mainstream. You get more popularity. Since it doesn't do that. It wont get **** in terms of popularity that the hardcore fans, boxers, and promoters want.

Dont get **** twisted. If you Market your product correctly. You will get what you want.

[Mr. Philadel]

By T.K. Stewart - Tex Rickard was a visionary. He was most probably the best promoter in boxing’s storied history and he lived by a lone philosophy, “Give the people what they want, the way they want it, and not the way you think best.”

If Bob Arum would have had his way, boxing fans would have been treated to a Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. mega-fight at Jerry Jones’ Cowboys Stadium on March 13.

Bob Arum, you see, has vision.

But Arum, and the sport in which he operates, is now an every man for himself environment. As 2010 dawns, boxing has a myriad of competing self interests which means putting together a big fight also means appeasing every single group. Every whim, every desire, every nagging line of every contract has to be agreed to by every party - or there is no fight.

Boxing had a magnificent opportunity to eclipse the sporting world and to put itself on the front pages of newspapers and be the headline of sportscasts round the globe with a 2010 Pacquiao - Mayweather bout. But negotiations imploded because of unreasonable contractual demands by the fighters and those that call the shots for them.

Because of single-minded wants - the entire sport suffers.

There is plenty of blame and finger-pointing to go around in what has become the latest fiasco in the sport. What was going to be the most lucrative fight in boxing history looks now as though it may never happen. Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, who attempted to negotiate the Pacquiao fight on behalf of Mayweather, is pointing the finger of blame at Arum - and Arum is pointing his finger right back at Schaefer and Mayweather’s quasi-manager, the elusive Al Haymon. [Click Here To Read More]

one of the best reads ever posted here!!!

[cherokee]

a boxing diva who thinks he controls boxing and it will die when leaves the sports is killing the sport itself!

[!! Shawn]

I'm a fan of Floyd, but I do agree with you. Floyd fighting JMM prevented some interesting fights involving JMM at 135 and 140.

Not just with JMM, but it also potentially robbed another fighter of a career defining victory.

Boxing has always survived on the old lion being eat by the young lion, not the old lion moving up 2 weights to get humiliated by the middle age lion.

Without wins over Hopkins, Taylor is nobody. You take the big names out of a division, and the young guys have nobody to make their name off of, you ruin a whole generation.

Thats why Floyd is such a ****bag. Imagine if Tim Bradley was able to give Hatton that first loss instead of him. Bradley would be a superstar already, instead of having to work for it slowly.

All Floyd does is steal opportunities.

[Suckmedry]

Not just with JMM, but it also potentially robbed another fighter of a career defining victory.

Boxing has always survived on the old lion being eat by the young lion, not the old lion moving up 2 weights to get humiliated by the middle age lion.

Without wins over Hopkins, Taylor is nobody. You take the big names out of a division, and the young guys have nobody to make their name off of, you ruin a whole generation.

Thats why Floyd is such a ****bag. Imagine if Tim Bradley was able to give Hatton that first loss instead of him. Bradley would be a superstar already, instead of having to work for it slowly.

All Floyd does is steal opportunities.

Unfortunately, that is all true. But Floyd can redeem himself yet, if Manny agrees to the drug testing and the fight is made, it will be excellent for boxing.

[blacraven]

Why must the hating on Floyd continue, why??? Like it or not, Floyd Mayweather Jr. shuts the mouth of his opposition and overcame everyone he has faced. i remember when roy said in that song, "they said i didnt fight nobody, i just made em look like nobody..".
Some boxing fans are funny man, you wanna see a man busted up and struggle for a win and then say.."oh he's great, look how he pulled through, etc.." but when you dominate and dont even make it look challenging, people say "oh, the other guy wasnt a good enough opponent, he needs to fight so-and-so.." its a never ending cycle..

1. Floyd is the greatest and will beat the **** out of Manny.
2. Manny not agreeing to the drug test makes him look su****ious, if it were me, id take the test to prove i was clean, and then administer an ass whipping to my accuser, it'll be like a grudge match.. but he cant... he knows in his heart that Floyd is too much for him.
3. If manny agrees and fights, then on march 13th his reign will be over and i think he nor his people are ready to stop riding that gravy train yet.

[namme]

Unfortunately, that is all true. But Floyd can redeem himself yet, if Manny agrees to the drug testing and the fight is made, it will be excellent for boxing.

Why does it have to be Pacquiao who will have to agree with Floyd's terms? Floyd can always take that out of the negotiations if he really wants to fight Pacquiao. Cotto fought Pacquiao, Hatton fought Pacquiao, Oscar fought Pacquiao....why can't he? or does he really believe that Pacquiao is taking PED?

It will still be excellent for boxing as you said, if Floyd agrees to just simply fight Pacquiao without that ridiculous condition.

[switchsouthpaw]

Very insightful article. It seems the inmates are now running the asylum. In many ways the more popular a fighter becomes, the more control they hold over the sport and various divisions, as they are able to secure TV dates more so than less popular fighters of comparable talent--the De La Hoya effect. HBO holding dates and budgeting specifically for those fighters have a negative impact on the long-term health of the sport.