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  • #31
    Originally posted by ufirst View Post
    Paulie's used logic to back up his assertion which is way better than what most of the posters on here do. btw does anyone remember Mosley exhibiting 'roid rage? & even though Vargas seemed surly for the De La Hoya bout there were no reports of 'roid rage concerning him. The fact is, when we see boxers most of the time, their training, which is already violent and aggressive, (hitting bags, sparring). If the dude is clean he should take whatever tests for the good of his career & the sport- anybody who says different is probably delusional. btw Paulie, if he stays in character could pull off the upset.
    ...Manny is way more popular then Mosley ever was...every where you look with regard to boxing, there's Manny...it's funny, the worst that's been said about his personal life was messing around on his wife...follow me?...


    Kabuki Joe

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bob Anomaly View Post
      His opinions are as valid as anyone posting here.
      They would be if he didn't get his facts twisted, such as "Manny put on 17 pounds of muscle in one year". He's an idiot.


      2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
      2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
      2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
      2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
      2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
      2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
      2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs

      144-149 = 5 lbs difference in three years.



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      • #33
        Pacquaio at 126 and 130 was ripped as anyone in the world. At 144 Cotto had more ripped up abs.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ufirst View Post
          Paulie's used logic to back up his assertion which is way better than what most of the posters on here do. btw does anyone remember Mosley exhibiting 'roid rage? & even though Vargas seemed surly for the De La Hoya bout there were no reports of 'roid rage concerning him. The fact is, when we see boxers most of the time, they are training, which is already violent and aggressive, (hitting bags, sparring). If the dude is clean he should take whatever tests for the good of his career & the sport- anybody who says different is probably delusional. btw Paulie, if he stays in character could pull off the upset.
          Logic in what sense? In his position as a boxer should make statement/s that is appropriate as a pro by making sound comments not by just his opinion driven by envy or for popularity's sake. This is a shame for boxing. Recommend a system or standard that would let boxers undergo during a fight to be fair in both parties and not by just throwing something that would let people left in a balance.

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          • #35
            didn't mayweather say he started at 106? Why isn't anyone claiming he is on steroids for being a WW now

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            • #36
              Originally posted by KabukiJoe View Post
              ...true...a body builder really isn't concerned with weight...the thing about boxing is when you put on "mass" it makes you slower and your core temp increases so you have a tendacy to over heat when "working"...Manny doesn't seem to have gotten any slower...I always suspected Holyfield of juicing and I think he might have had a bad test once or twice...

              Kabuki Joe
              His last few fights at 130 and 135, Pac's fight night weight was 145-148. His fight with JMM and Diaz, he was 148. So when Pac moved up to 140 and 147, he was still weigh in in at 148 during fight night. The only diffience between him at 135 and below and at 140-47 is that he does not need to cut a lot of weight.

              Pac lost his first title when he can't make weight. He wasn't KO'ed as in went to sleep. Not making excuses but he lost due to weight problem. He was exhausted if you see how he lost. The last couple of fights at 130, Pac's off season weight was above 150. Probably one of the reason that he can make weight "easily" is that because his training team here in the US. Compare the method of cutting weight between Pac's training team in Philippines in 1999 then with Roach and the rest form 2001 to present. Roach and his staff has probably more knowledge in cutting weigth.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                They would be if he didn't get his facts twisted, such as "Manny put on 17 pounds of muscle in one year". He's an idiot.


                2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
                2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
                2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
                2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
                2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
                2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
                2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs

                144-149 = 5 lbs difference in three years.
                Yup, I'd love to see that presented or read out to Paulie.

                He's completely un-clued up on the basic facts, and factually wrong on this whole matter he's been mouthing off about.

                So he fully deserves getting hit the biggest in the defamation charges.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ray` View Post
                  Its pretty simple if you have nothing to hide you would take any test and fight for 40 million and a chance to show people you are clean and what you're doing is natural.
                  fk showing people **** ...

                  They don't give a damn about Manny ...

                  Bastards have already cast their stones..damage is done ... hence lawsuit.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
                    Yup, I'd love to see that presented or read out to Paulie.
                    Anyone know if he has an email address?



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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ray` View Post
                      Its pretty simple if you have nothing to hide you would take any test and fight for 40 million and a chance to show people you are clean and what you're doing is natural.
                      Dude, Pac said he will subject himself to random blood testing BUT NOT with Mayweathers Drug Testing Agency and/or Mayweathers conditions.

                      He will do it with the authorized agency who has the jurisdiction w/c is the NSAC.

                      Got it?

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