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    Interesting Article on Manny Pacquiao's defamation lawsuit-it could backfire

    Cynics might say it's all merely an elaborate escalation of boxing's ritual of prefight trash-talk, but the defamation lawsuit Manny Pacquiao filed Wednesday against Floyd Mayweather Jr. and his supporters is a bit more serious than the customary name-calling and bombast.

    The suit alleges Mayweather and his reps maliciously, knowingly, publicly, and wrongly accused Pacquiao of doping. But the complaint's press-release tone - "blessed with an unmatched combination of speed, power, skill, and guile," the lawsuit reads - doesn't mean Mayweather (or Pacquiao himself, for that matter) can treat it like a PR release.

    Why? Because if the litigation-rich recent history of professional sports is any guide, defamation suits can take on a life of their own, particularly when they involve the murky topic of performance-enhancing drug use, as this one does.

    Such suits can backfire spectacularly. Just ask Roger Clemens, whose defamation complaint against Brian McNamee put Clemens' reputation on an examination table, where it didn't sit comfortably. Or consider boxer Shane Mosley, whose suit against BALCO founder Victor Conte has dragged on for nearly two years - generating awkward depositions, expensive venue changes, and the publication of Mosley's 2003 grand jury testimony, in which he described injecting himself with endurance-boosting EPO.

    Now Pacquiao has joined Clemens, Mosley, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, and swimmer Ian Thorpe in the pantheon of athletes who have responded to doping allegations with defamation suits. While none of them ever came close to winning a jury trial, some lost more than they and their lawyers likely ever expected.

    Nevertheless, Dan Petrocelli, a Los Angeles-based attorney representing Pacquiao, told the Daily News that those other lawsuits have no bearing on the case put forward by the Philippine boxing sensation.

    "If you know anything about Manny Pacquiao, he doesn't have that risk," said Petrocelli. "With lot of these cases, there's some sort of corroboration of the statements - a witness, a prescription, a trainer, a Jose Canseco. Here there's nothing."

    Besides Mayweather, the defendants in the suit include the boxer's father, Floyd Sr., his trainer and uncle, Roger, as well as Mayweather Promotions. Also named are Golden Boy Promotions executives Richard Schaefer and Oscar De La Hoya.

    New York attorney Judd Burstein, who has represented Golden Boy in other litigation, including Mosley's long-running suit against Conte (Mosley is in the Golden Boy stable of fighters), called Pacquiao's new complaint "frivolous." Burstein says the comments identified in the complaint are statements of opinion and therefore legally protected. In the Mosley suit, he argues the opposite, saying that Conte's statements were not opinion, but that he made them as statements of fact.

    Some of the offending comments cited in the Pacquiao complaint were made as recently as last week, when reps for the two sides argued over what sort of drug testing should accompany the March 13 fight. Mayweather's backers launched an intense public campaign for testing that would go beyond that required by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, including blood tests. When Pacquiao balked, Mayweather's crew raised the notion that Pacquiao wasn't clean, the lawsuit claims, setting out on "a course designed to destroy Pacquiao's career, reputation, honor, and legacy, and jeopardize his ability to earn the highest levels of compensation."

    A national hero in his native land, Pacquiao hasn't lost a fight since March of 2005, and has packed on at least 15 pounds of muscle since then. He also hasn't been afraid to climb into the legal ring, suing Golden Boy in 2006 in a contract matter.

    The new lawsuit suggests that the contract suit, as well as Pacquiao's defeat of De La Hoya in 2008, have left the defendants motivated by "ill-will, spite, malice, envy and revenge."

    Should the suit go forward, Pacquiao and the defendants, can probably look forward to the kind of commentary the Mosley suit has produced. In an interview posted on the fight site Fighthype.com on Wednesday, Mayweather was quoted saying "you must realize this, Shane Mosley took steroids his whole career."

    Mosley has admitted to getting steroids and other injectible drugs from Conte at BALCO, but claims he didn't know they were banned substances. He first sued Conte in federal court in California in the spring of 2008 after Conte stated that Mosley knew the drugs were banned. In August of that year, after Mosley's former trainer corroborated Conte's account, Mosley withdrew the lawsuit in California and immediately re-filed it in the Supreme Court of the State of New York.

    In December of that year, U.S. District Court Judge Susan Illston unsealed grand jury testimony from the BALCO investigation and transcripts of Shane Mosley's testimony were publicly released, showing that Mosley had admitted under oath to using BALCO products and never attempted to characterize the drugs as legal substances.

    In most circumstances, grand jury testimony remains strictly confidential, and Mosley's defamation suit was likely filed with the expectation that his testimony would not become public. Pacquiao can now hope that no unexpected surprises put him on the defensive legally. Conte and Mosley were deposed in Manhattan in October, and Mosley once again admitted to using steroids and performance-enhancing drugs as he prepared for his Sept. 2003 fight against Oscar De La Hoya.

    "Would it be fair, as we sit here today, to say that in the weeks before your fight with Oscar De La Hoya...that you took steroids?" Conte's lawyer asked Mosley.

    "Yes," Mosley replied.

    "Would it be fair to say you took performance-enhancing drugs in the weeks prior to the fight with Oscar De La Hoya in 2003?"

    "Yes," Mosley said.

    Conte's lawyers will file a motion to dismiss in January, at about the same time the court process will begin to kick in in the Pacquiao case.

    "Manny doesn't really relish being in litigation," said Petrocelli, "but he's worked very hard and he can't let somebody make an accusation like this."

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...#ixzz0bK9XgzS2





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  • PAC-BOY
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    he will win !

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    • -The Glove-
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      I honestly believe all of this was considered
      before they filed. Most of these people that sue are bluffing, and it looks like this is gonna go through. I seriously don't think anybody would consider all this and still pursue a court case if they were really using.

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      • pac oww
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        Originally posted by 2npac
        I honestly believe all of this was considered
        before they filed. Most of these people that sue are bluffing, and it looks like this is gonna go through. I seriously don't think anybody would consider all this and still pursue a court case if they were really using.
        but what if manny didn't know. ariza gives him the supplements.

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        • Joeyzagz
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          None of these athletes won their defamation lawsuits because its hard to prove a negative. Pacquiao will have to prove he is not dirty, and in order to do that his entire team will be cross examined.

          One discrepency or lie could crumble their entire case. Ariza Roach and Arum are in deep trouble.

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          • alexpz
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            #6
            Originally posted by Soir
            None of these athletes won their defamation lawsuits because its hard to prove a negative. Pacquiao will have to prove he is not dirty, and in order to do that his entire team will be cross examined.

            One discrepency or lie could crumble their entire case. Ariza Roach and Arum are in deep trouble.
            are you a lawyer? just wondering?

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            • Toxic
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              Pac is no Mosley

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                #8
                Originally posted by 2npac
                I honestly believe all of this was considered
                before they filed. Most of these people that sue are bluffing, and it looks like this is gonna go through. I seriously don't think anybody would consider all this and still pursue a court case if they were really using.
                Me think Manny push court for diversion for other heat , this first stage just like buy ticket is easy , next stage much harder for Manny court , after time when become back page news Manny throw court ticket in rubbish bin , he can no win anything in this style court , is smokescreen

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                • jqSide
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                  Originally posted by Soir
                  None of these athletes won their defamation lawsuits because its hard to prove a negative. Pacquiao will have to prove he is not dirty, and in order to do that his entire team will be cross examined.

                  One discrepency or lie could crumble their entire case. Ariza Roach and Arum are in deep trouble.
                  Even a twelve year could figure out if you're lying or not. This is not rocket science. You don't sue if you know you're guilty. Your demeanor in court will speak for itself.

                  To me this is not about who wins or not. It is about your life being disrupted for, who knows? Years maybe. Mayweather might drain his wallet in lawyers bills alone. Pacman has the entire population of his country to back him up.

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                  • raiders1217
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Soir
                    None of these athletes won their defamation lawsuits because its hard to prove a negative. Pacquiao will have to prove he is not dirty, and in order to do that his entire team will be cross examined.

                    One discrepency or lie could crumble their entire case. Ariza Roach and Arum are in deep trouble.
                    You made a point, but Pacquiao is suing because Mayweather and GBP is making some statement on their interviews that did some damages on his image and maybe his future income. He is not suing them to prove he is clean, he is suing them for making accusations, that means Mayweather and GBP is the one that needs to come up with evidence showing that Pacquiao is on PEDs/Roids. The court now, will not ask for Pacquiao for blood testing, that would also be a dumb move from Mayweather's lawyer because if you think about it, even if Pac was on PED or roids he would have gotten rid of it before filing a suit knowing that they could ask him for it. Look at OJ Simpsons case, we all know he's guilty but in court they couldn't proved that he was the one who killed his wife. OJ wasn't the one saying look I wasn't there, it was the prosecutor who was coming up with evidence first and then OJ's attorney countered. Same will be applied here, Mayweather's camp has to come up with their evidence to back up their claim, then Pacquiao will counter base on those evidence, he will not be the one coming up with evidence first.

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