Antonio Tarver

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Damn, Tarver - Mormeck could be a good one. Thing is Mormeck has like no defence so there's a chance it could end soon. Actually, sorry, he has two styles of defence: absorbing punches into his enourmous frame, and running away after he's up on points. He did look good with that jab in the later rounds, though, os if he worked from the outside more he might have a chance. Still, I say he goes after Tarver early because that's the kind of fighter he is...and then he gets pelted enough that he gets worn down in a hurry. Even Braithwaite was giving him trouble in the middle rounds when he was throwing rights to the body.

This is all dependent of Tarver actually working hard enough in the fight to win. As we've all said, that is a big if.

Not only that, but Braithwaite fought a ******ed fight against Mormeck. Why in the hell was he so intent on throwing to the body? that was beyond me. He should have focused on landing power shots upstairs. Tarver's handspeed supercedes both of the fighters, and I think hits just as hard, if not harder than braithwaite. I see it the same way, Mormeck would get bombed after a while....from being overly agressive. He wont be facing a bodypuncher who backs straight up while throwing. He will be facing a headhunter who will actually take the fight directly to him. Alot of people also forget, Tarver is a brawler also. And more skilled at that.



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Glen is going to get knocked out this time around. Tarver had him hurt the first time, and he's going to finish the job. Antonio Tarver fought him all wrong the first time. He tried to win the fight on the score cards, but in their next fight, he's going to knock him out.

If he couldn't KO Johnson the 1st time,he aint KOing him this time.Johnsons pressure exposed the ***** in Tarver last time,and if Tarver goes for the KO early in the rematch and fails,Johnsons gonna tire him out with bodyshots and KO him late.


Dont forget the Av/sig bet JTR.I already have them made for ya,lol.

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.Johnsons pressure exposed the ***** in Tarver last time.

It was a light heavyweight showdown between two recent knockout conquerors of fading superstar Roy Jones Jr. and when it was over, almost everyone felt that Antonio Tarver had done enough to defeat a game Glen Johnson. Everyone, that is, except two of the judges and that enabled Johnson to come away with a controversial split decision 12-round victory Saturday night on HBO’s World Championship Boxing showcase from the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

Both fighters gave up their versions of the light heavyweight championship in order to face each other and they put on an entertaining show, trading punches for 12 rounds. The taller Tarver threw more punches, landed more punches and appeared to land the harder shots. Johnson stalked Tarver throughout and did some solid work to the body but it was Tarver who seemed to be landing the cleaner and more effective shots.

Tarver connected on 296 of 853 total punches (35 per cent), including 220 of 497 power shots (44 per cent) and 76 of 356 jabs (21 per cent). Johnson landed 217 of 796 total punches (27 per cent), including 140 of 371 power shots (38 per cent) and 77 of 425 jabs (18 per cent). Tarver appeared to have a clear advantage in at least six rounds and a slight edge in at least two others but when the judges’ cards were tabulated, only Marty Denkin of California saw Tarver winning by a 116-112 margin. Judges Melvina Lathan of New York and Chuck Giampa of Nevada had it 115-113 for Johnson. Tarver outlanded Johnson by margins of 37-14, 33-11, 31-17 & 33-16 in rounds two, six, eight and twelve, averaging 87 punches thrown per round. He didn’t sustain that work rate over twelve rounds however, as he threw just 26 punches in round one, 36 in the fifth and 38 in the tenth.

Johnson clearly won the opening round, when Tarver threw only 26 punches and landed only four while Johnson connected on 14 of 57. Tarver turned on the offense in rounds two and three, outlanding Johnson 37-14 in the second and 35-20 in the third. After each fighter landed 26 punches in the fourth, Johnson had a 21-12 advantage in the fifth. Johnson sustained a slight cut near his eye in an accidental clash of heads in the sixth and Tarver produced his best round, outlanding Johnson 33-11, with 28 of the connects being power shots.

The rugged Johnson rallied in the seventh to outland Tarver 27-21 but Tarver took control again in the eighth and ninth after a tongue-lashing from trainer Buddy McGirt. He outlanded Johnson 31-17 in the eighth and 22-14 in the ninth and appeared to be on his was to a victory. All three judges had Tarver leading through nine rounds. But Tarver suddenly decided to coast through the 10 th and it may have cost him as Johnson landed 11 of 58 punches while Tarver connected on 11 of only 38.

The 11 th was fought at a furious pace, with Tarver landing 26 of 100 punches, his highest output of the fight, including 23 power shots, and Johnson connecting on 26 of 85, 13 of them power shots.

Tarver let his hands go in the 12 th. He rocked Johnson twice and dominated the first 2 ½ minutes before Johnson staged a last-gasp rally. Tarver landed 33 of 83 total punches in the 12th, including 29 of 57 power shots, while Johnson connected on just 16 of 64 total punches, including 11 of 34 power shots. Despite the huge edge in connects, both Giampa and Lathan gave Johnson the 12 th round for his margin of victory.

All three judges gave Johnson the 10 th but Denkin gave Tarver the last two rounds while Giampa and Lathan had Johnson winning the last two. While all three judges had Tarver winning after nine rounds, Johnson emerged as the winner by taking the final three rounds on Giampa’s and Lathan’s scorecards.

“I thought I did enough to win the fight,” said Tarver, who fell to 22-3. “I landed the harder cleaner shots. I threw more punches and I hurt him a couple of times. I hurt my left hand early in the fight when I hit him on top of the head but I didn’t let it stop me. I kept throwing and I feel I did enough to win the fight. I’m definitely ready to do it again.”

“It went my way for a change,” said Johnson, who has often been the victim of curious officiating. “I was holding my breath when they announced the winner and thankfully it went my way this time. I trained hard and pushed the fight for 12 rounds and I think that’s what did it for me. He never hurt me. He caught me a couple of times when my feet weren’t set properly and knocked me off balance but I was never hurt.”

Johnson, who raised his record to 42-9, also said he would welcome a rematch.

“Sure, let’s do it again,” said Johnson. “Antonio Tarver is a great fighter. I think it was a terrific fight and one which the public would enjoy seeing again.”

For the record, most ringside observers felt Tarver had won. Jones, who was handling ringside color for HBO, felt Tarver was the winner as did broadcasters Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant and HBO judge Harold Lederman.

Robbery plain and simple. Threw more, Landed more, and could not have won the fight in a more clear fashion......aside from knocking him out, which he will do next time. I am tired of judges giving the fights to busier people in the championship rounds. That is whack.

He was holding his breath right before the judges announced the scores. Exposed? Nope. And even in this case....Johnson was not really busier....throwing punches. More like clinching and grabbing.



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It was a light heavyweight showdown between two recent knockout conquerors of fading superstar Roy Jones Jr. and when it was over, almost everyone felt that Antonio Tarver had done enough to defeat a game Glen Johnson. Everyone, that is, except two of the judges and that enabled Johnson to come away with a controversial split decision 12-round victory Saturday night on HBO’s World Championship Boxing showcase from the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

Both fighters gave up their versions of the light heavyweight championship in order to face each other and they put on an entertaining show, trading punches for 12 rounds. The taller Tarver threw more punches, landed more punches and appeared to land the harder shots. Johnson stalked Tarver throughout and did some solid work to the body but it was Tarver who seemed to be landing the cleaner and more effective shots.

Tarver connected on 296 of 853 total punches (35 per cent), including 220 of 497 power shots (44 per cent) and 76 of 356 jabs (21 per cent). Johnson landed 217 of 796 total punches (27 per cent), including 140 of 371 power shots (38 per cent) and 77 of 425 jabs (18 per cent). Tarver appeared to have a clear advantage in at least six rounds and a slight edge in at least two others but when the judges’ cards were tabulated, only Marty Denkin of California saw Tarver winning by a 116-112 margin. Judges Melvina Lathan of New York and Chuck Giampa of Nevada had it 115-113 for Johnson. Tarver outlanded Johnson by margins of 37-14, 33-11, 31-17 & 33-16 in rounds two, six, eight and twelve, averaging 87 punches thrown per round. He didn’t sustain that work rate over twelve rounds however, as he threw just 26 punches in round one, 36 in the fifth and 38 in the tenth.

Johnson clearly won the opening round, when Tarver threw only 26 punches and landed only four while Johnson connected on 14 of 57. Tarver turned on the offense in rounds two and three, outlanding Johnson 37-14 in the second and 35-20 in the third. After each fighter landed 26 punches in the fourth, Johnson had a 21-12 advantage in the fifth. Johnson sustained a slight cut near his eye in an accidental clash of heads in the sixth and Tarver produced his best round, outlanding Johnson 33-11, with 28 of the connects being power shots.

The rugged Johnson rallied in the seventh to outland Tarver 27-21 but Tarver took control again in the eighth and ninth after a tongue-lashing from trainer Buddy McGirt. He outlanded Johnson 31-17 in the eighth and 22-14 in the ninth and appeared to be on his was to a victory. All three judges had Tarver leading through nine rounds. But Tarver suddenly decided to coast through the 10 th and it may have cost him as Johnson landed 11 of 58 punches while Tarver connected on 11 of only 38.

The 11 th was fought at a furious pace, with Tarver landing 26 of 100 punches, his highest output of the fight, including 23 power shots, and Johnson connecting on 26 of 85, 13 of them power shots.

Tarver let his hands go in the 12 th. He rocked Johnson twice and dominated the first 2 ½ minutes before Johnson staged a last-gasp rally. Tarver landed 33 of 83 total punches in the 12th, including 29 of 57 power shots, while Johnson connected on just 16 of 64 total punches, including 11 of 34 power shots. Despite the huge edge in connects, both Giampa and Lathan gave Johnson the 12 th round for his margin of victory.

All three judges gave Johnson the 10 th but Denkin gave Tarver the last two rounds while Giampa and Lathan had Johnson winning the last two. While all three judges had Tarver winning after nine rounds, Johnson emerged as the winner by taking the final three rounds on Giampa’s and Lathan’s scorecards.

“I thought I did enough to win the fight,” said Tarver, who fell to 22-3. “I landed the harder cleaner shots. I threw more punches and I hurt him a couple of times. I hurt my left hand early in the fight when I hit him on top of the head but I didn’t let it stop me. I kept throwing and I feel I did enough to win the fight. I’m definitely ready to do it again.”

“It went my way for a change,” said Johnson, who has often been the victim of curious officiating. “I was holding my breath when they announced the winner and thankfully it went my way this time. I trained hard and pushed the fight for 12 rounds and I think that’s what did it for me. He never hurt me. He caught me a couple of times when my feet weren’t set properly and knocked me off balance but I was never hurt.”

Johnson, who raised his record to 42-9, also said he would welcome a rematch.

“Sure, let’s do it again,” said Johnson. “Antonio Tarver is a great fighter. I think it was a terrific fight and one which the public would enjoy seeing again.”

For the record, most ringside observers felt Tarver had won. Jones, who was handling ringside color for HBO, felt Tarver was the winner as did broadcasters Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant and HBO judge Harold Lederman.

Robbery plain and simple. Threw more, Landed more, and could not have won the fight in a more clear fashion......aside from knocking him out, which he will do next time. I am tired of judges giving the fights to busier people in the championship rounds. That is whack.

He was holding his breath right before the judges announced the scores. Exposed? Nope. And even in this case....Johnson was not really busier....throwing punches. More like clinching and grabbing.

Do judges have the exact rd-by-rd punchstats?.hmmmmm....

Well,if Tarver would have won the championship rounds,he would have won and we wouldn't be arguing whether or not the decision was controversial or not.So,blame the falling,fatiued and staggering Tarver for the so called "Controversial decision".You cant take away the heart and determination Johnson showed though,he was moving foward from bell to bell.Only three months after his emotional high victory over Jones,he stood his own against the next best lt.heavyweight in the World in Tarver.

Download this clip.Basicly all the reasons you need on why Tarver lost the fight.

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For the record, most ringside observers felt Tarver had won. Jones, who was handling ringside color for HBO, felt Tarver was the winner as did broadcasters Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant and HBO judge Harold Lederman.

The HBO commentary was so bias that night.Everytime Johnson had a good round,Jones would say "Tarvers just resting",or if Johnson landed a good shot he would say "Tarvers playing possum".I dont know how many times Lamps discredited Johnson workrate by mentioning his lack of punching power.

I was glad Johnson got the decision,because I think the HBO crew knew they were way off that night.

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Do judges have the exact rd-by-rd punchstats?.hmmmmm....

Well,if Tarver would have won the championship rounds,he would have won and we wouldn't be arguing whether or not the decision was controversial or not.So,blame the falling,fatiued and staggering Tarver for the so called "Controversial decision".You cant take away the heart and determination Johnson showed though,he was moving foward from bell to bell.Only three months after his emotional high victory over Jones,he stood his own against the next best lt.heavyweight in the World in Tarver.

Download this clip.Basicly all the reasons you need on why Tarver lost the fight.

Okay I see though. But come on, LOL. That clip was biased, and if Tarver was the one who won the fight, they would have showed all the times he staggered Johnson. Nobody is taking away the heart and determination Glen showed, but If a fight is scored by rounds...I dont see why Glen won the fight. Yes, I do realize he was the champion and Tarver had to win decisevly in order to take the titles from him....and I think he did that. The 116-112 scores by the two judges were just plain wrong. You have good points, and I suppose we would have to wait for the rematch to see the real outcome.

That fight was controversial as hell, and it will take a knockout for Tarver to win the next fight, and I think he realizes that. I am really looking foward to the rematch, because I think it will be a war. Tarver being the hungrier of the two...should come out on top.



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[realheavyhands]

Damn, Tarver - Mormeck could be a good one. Thing is Mormeck has like no defence so there's a chance it could end soon. Actually, sorry, he has two styles of defence: absorbing punches into his enourmous frame, and running away after he's up on points. He did look good with that jab in the later rounds, though, os if he worked from the outside more he might have a chance. Still, I say he goes after Tarver early because that's the kind of fighter he is...and then he gets pelted enough that he gets worn down in a hurry. Even Braithwaite was giving him trouble in the middle rounds when he was throwing rights to the body.

This is all dependent of Tarver actually working hard enough in the fight to win. As we've all said, that is a big if.

baithwaite is better the tarver

[Bombardier]

baithwaite is better the tarver

What makes you say that? If he was better he should have beat Mormeck. Mormeck had some pop in his shots and he can take a punch well, but Braithwaite beat himself by fighting dumb dumb dumb. Who has Braithwaite beat that would make him better than Tarver?

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baithwaite is better the tarver

Im not a huge Tarver guy but Wayne is a piece of ****...I was very dissappointed with his performance against JMM, he looked like he had absolutely no clue what to do in the ring that night.

Even when big truck is on top of his game he looks like an amateur.

[realheavyhands]

What makes you say that? If he was better he should have beat Mormeck. Mormeck had some pop in his shots and he can take a punch well, but Braithwaite beat himself by fighting dumb dumb dumb. Who has Braithwaite beat that would make him better than Tarver?

big truck punches with both hands much harder then tarver and has a better jab ...he did fight a dumb ass fight he underestimated mormeck. but mormeck would walk through tarver