Evander Holyfield vs Francois Botha is ON

[El_Cholo]

How do they differentiate the main 4 titles from these fringe belts? I mean what's the difference?

not by the year they were founded?

[Adamantium]

Evander came out of retirement fought some bums got a title shot and lost. Did nothing for a year and got another title shot, which he lost. He is now fighting Botha for a worthless belt and he now thinks he deserves another title shot? How can a guy get so many chances for losing fights and fighting nobodies?

[Left Hook Tua]

How do they differentiate the main 4 titles from these fringe belts? I mean what's the difference?

wbc , ibf and wba has been around long enough to establish themself.

wbo got recognition a few years back. before that it was considered a minor title mostly held by european promoted fighters.

ibo will probably be the next fringe belt to be considered a major belt if ever.

everything else are minor fringe belts.

[Stab Judah]

How do they differentiate the main 4 titles from these fringe belts? I mean what's the difference?

Without getting into history of all the belts.
They start off as regional titles but when legitimate champions start to hold your belt and defend it it slowly becomes national and then world.

[Left Hook Tua]

Evander came out of retirement fought some bums got a title shot and lost. Did nothing for a year and got another title shot, which he lost. He is now fighting Botha for a worthless belt and he now thinks he deserves another title shot? How can a guy get so many chances for losing fights and fighting nobodies?

name recognition mostly.

i don't even want to talk about title shots.

sore subject for me.

[jkaisen41]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8436344.stm

80,000... I love it... you know I love these big atmospheres simply...

but both should really walk away... Holyfield has his dream but the way goes through the Klitschko's... no chance at this stage of his career... he would get hurt bad against both and his pride would probably stand in his way... he would get punished and I think nobody would want to see that...

Botha was never that good to begin with... to believe he can do now something is beyond me...

Why is it so hard for guys to walk away?

[Adamantium]

name recognition mostly.

Dudes going to be a complete mess later on in life, with all his wars and roids thats for sure. Never liked him after he beat by boy Tyson, cant forgive Holyfield for that.

[Left Hook Tua]

Dudes going to be a complete mess later on in life, with all his wars and roids thats for sure. Never liked him after he beat by boy Tyson, cant forgive Holyfield for that.

i feel you. never liked holyfield either with his cheating and headbutting.

[Suckmedry]

i feel you. never liked holyfield either with his cheating and headbutting.

Get out of here man. Holyfield is no cheater and the headbutting thing was mainly drummed up by sore Tyson fan boys. Fact is, yes Evander used his head, so does Clottey, so does Bernard, Ali used to hold guys heads down, Floyd uses his elbows, Cotto throws low blows, etc etc etc

But it can also be noted the amount of headclashes in that fight/s also stemmed from Tyson coming in low then launching up, and also recklessly charging in trying to kill Evander.


Holyfield is one of those fighters where I cannot understand how anyone couldn't like him. Brave man is all I will say.

[Adamantium]

i feel you. never liked holyfield either with his cheating and headbutting.

Yeah I agree, at least with other dirty fighters like Hopkins they don't act like they are saints, but Evander is really something else. Playing the role of the righteous Christian while head butting his opponents, cheating and roiding since at least the early 90's. Have you seen Holyfield-Toney that was a Holyfield head butting clinic from about round 2 onwards.