Elie Seckbach diss Mayweaher VIDEO!!

**ThePunchingBag** · 12-31-2009, 08:31 AM

Not really a diss, and what he said was pretty much common sense.

Pac is innocent until PROVEN guilty. The problem with the Mayweathers is that they have no proof.

**Suckmedry** · 12-31-2009, 08:33 AM

OMG OMG drop the phone Floyd got dissed let's all flock into this thread with the usual "coward fraud gayweather" chants.

Really people, the opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference. If you really have a problem with Floyd, don't give him attention which only gives him more publicity, more notoriety, and more $$$ in the bank next time he fights on PPV.

**The Stone Roses** · 12-31-2009, 08:35 AM

Elie Seckhback is probably Samurai....the biggest nuthugging punk on this site

**βetamax** · 12-31-2009, 08:39 AM

That guy sounds like such a nuthugger. He had some descent points but he shows his bias when he doesn't even bother to acknowledge that Pacquiao and his team have been acting shady and he then went on to say that "he WILL show up clean". Come on, man. That's not reporting.

**ROSS CALIFORNIA** · 12-31-2009, 08:40 AM

Berry Bonds was accused the same way. Most people had no proof. They went by his size and performance. This is nothing new to accuse someone of being on steroids because of their size and power. Even Jose Conseco was being accused of it in the late 80's going by his size and strength. There's nothing different Floyd is doing that a lot have people have done all along. You don't need proof to accuse anyone of anything. He's putting his life on the line in there. If he feels Manny is roiding, he has every right to ask for random drug testing. Manny has every right to refuse, but looks like a cheater or has something to hide because he refuses to take the tests. Of course Manny's fans don't see it like this because they are biased. Put the shoe on the other foot and everyone would be su****ious about Floyd.

**LoveIsHere** · 12-31-2009, 08:46 AM

lol mayweather fans has flocked this thread to defend their dream man

**ThePunchingBag** · 12-31-2009, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by RossCA

Berry Bonds was accused the same way. Most people had no proof. They went by his size and performance. This is nothing new to accuse someone of being on steroids because of their size and power. Even Jose Conseco was being accused of it in the late 80's going by his size and strength. There's nothing different Floyd is doing that a lot have people have done all along. You don't need proof to accuse anyone of anything. He's putting his life on the line in there. If he feels Manny is roiding, he has every right to ask for random drug testing. Manny has every right to refuse, but looks like a cheater or has something to hide because he refuses to take the tests. Of course Manny's fans don't see it like this because they are biased. Put the shoe on the other foot and everyone would be su****ious about Floyd.

I don't think it's Pacquiao size really. Pacquiao hasn't really gained that much muscle.

I think Pac's previous performances have a lot to do with it. Walking through punches like nothing and Knocking guys out left and right.

I think Floyd's having doubts about whether or not he could win. Not to say he doesn't want to fight, but deep down he doesn't think Pac will be as easy as the rest. This is the first gamble he's had to take in quite awhile and he's scared.

Why else would he suddenly ask for something no boxer in all of history has?

**p4p-champ** · 12-31-2009, 08:51 AM

lol *******s wouldn'y know a 'diss' if it fell on their laps. The video is actually very unbiased. Thread starter should view it a few more times and let it sink in without the ******* goggles.

**ROSS CALIFORNIA** · 12-31-2009, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by ThePunchingBag

I don't think it's Pacquiao size really. Pacquiao hasn't really gained that much muscle.

I think Pac's previous performances have a lot to do with it. Walking through punches like nothing and Knocking guys out left and right.

I think Floyd's having doubts about whether or not he could win. Not to say he doesn't want to fight, but deep down he doesn't think Pac will be as easy as the rest. This is the first gamble he's had to take in quite awhile and he's scared.

Why else would he suddenly ask for something no boxer in all of history has?

Well if you look at Duran, he didn't put on muscle like Manny did when he moved up. Not saying it couldn't be done, but there is the size I'm talking about. I personally think both fighters are a little worried about this fight. Even Roach said early on that this would be a tough fight for Manny because Mayweather doesn't move forward like his last 3 opponents. He also said Floyd was a very talented fighter. This was all before the testing thing went down. Both fighters have something to be worried about. Manny doesn't have to take the tests but he is looking guilty for walking away from a fight this big. If you walk away from a fight this big, don't let it be because you refuse random drug testing. Manny is sending the wrong message even if he is not guilty.

Elie Seckbach diss Mayweaher VIDEO!!