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  • Dondi33O
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    Simple Yes or No answer. Do you think Pac is "Naturally" stronger than..

    Some of these fighters have fought each other and done some damage but Pac seems to be doing even more damage than anyone of them have done to each other (with the exception of Shane vs Antonio*).
    *Possible psychological affect on Margarito, debatable.

    Before Pac fans(or *******s) get all defensive. This is a naturally good and inquisitive question considering that Manny has fought from 106-145.

    Joshua Clottey-140-154 fighter

    Zab Judah- 140-150 fighter

    Shane Mosley- 135-154 fighter

    Miguel Cotto- 135-147 fighter

    Antonio Margarito-135-154 fighter

    Poll to follow and considering the level of understanding of the *******(not the reasonable Pac fan), I will leave an option just for you.
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    Yes
    38.10%
    8
    No
    42.86%
    9
    Yes, but not naturally
    14.29%
    3
    Cotto sucks
    4.76%
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  • Gutz
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    #2
    Originally posted by Dondi33O
    Some of these fighters have fought each other and done some damage but Pac seems to be doing even more damage than anyone of them have done to each other (with the exception of Shane vs Antonio*).
    *Possible psychological affect on Margarito, debatable.

    Before Pac fans(or *******s) get all defensive. This is a naturally good and inquisitive question considering that Manny has fought from 106-145.

    Joshua Clottey-140-154 fighter

    Zab Judah- 140-150 fighter

    Shane Mosley- 135-154 fighter

    Miguel Cotto- 135-147 fighter

    Antonio Margarito-135-154 fighter

    Poll to follow and considering the level of understanding of the *******(not the reasonable Pac fan), I will leave an option just for you.
    No to all of them but Zab.

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    • DarthVoid
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      #3
      Originally posted by aether
      cotto stans like dondi came out of his rock just when the PED issue started. he seems bitter about his guy being beaten to a pulp and was made to do the moonwalk by the smaller guy.

      he is now hoping that manny is on PED's so that he and his fellow stans can convince themselves that cotto got his ass kicked by a roider and a guy who has bricks in his hands.

      You have received an invite at Thunderdome.


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      • madsweeney
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        #4
        No to all but Zab and perhaps Cotto. He does more damage though due to the nature of his punches. Snapping punches from blind sides/counters hurt more than slow, thudding punches that are projected.

        Don't agree, hundreds of martial arts around the world disagree with you.

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        • Dondi33O
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          #5
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          No to all but Zab and perhaps Cotto. He does more damage though due to the nature of his punches. Snapping punches from blind sides/counters hurt more than slow, thudding punches that are projected.

          Don't agree, hundreds of martial arts around the world disagree with you.
          You just said no to Zab and described pretty much how Zab punches. Not being confrontational but thats how Zab does his damage...



          look at 1:24

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          • MOREBASS
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            #6
            No.

            He's obviously not stronger...and he I can't remember when he's ever beaten anyone with his strength. He's beating guys with speed and a very unorthadox style.

            Period.


            You can't see where the punches are coming from, and you can't react fast enough because they're coming so fast.

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            • YoungReezy
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              #7
              Naturally...NO
              Artificially...YES

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              • rao007
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                #8
                The only person I can see where Pacquiao is naturally stronger is Zab.

                We must point out when considering this whole situation is the output of some of these naturally bigger guys like Zab Judah, Clottey. These guys actually dip 30-40 punches per round even though connecting at a high percentage. So the punches don't really accumulate where you see something like Pacquiao/Cotto punch stat. Pacquiao was landing on Cotto with insane numbers not just 5 to 6 good punches per round like Clottey and Zab Judah might have, but a boat load of punches...and as Cotto even replied he did not defend himself well due to Pacquiao's angles which would explain the high connect numbers.
                Last edited by rao007; 12-30-2009, 04:09 PM.

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                • Ben d great
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dondi33O
                  Some of these fighters have fought each other and done some damage but Pac seems to be doing even more damage than anyone of them have done to each other (with the exception of Shane vs Antonio*).
                  *Possible psychological affect on Margarito, debatable.

                  Before Pac fans(or *******s) get all defensive. This is a naturally good and inquisitive question considering that Manny has fought from 106-145.

                  Joshua Clottey-140-154 fighter

                  Zab Judah- 140-150 fighter

                  Shane Mosley- 135-154 fighter

                  Miguel Cotto- 135-147 fighter

                  Antonio Margarito-135-154 fighter

                  Poll to follow and considering the level of understanding of the *******(not the reasonable Pac fan), I will leave an option just for you.
                  Not to all of them and not in the options sorry man, who ever answer yes or as you asked are genius to do it.
                  Last edited by Ben d great; 12-30-2009, 03:19 PM. Reason: mispel

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #10
                    Let's get this straight strength do not necessary means power...

                    I do think Pac is naturally stronger and has more power than Judah... And, I think Floyd is stronger and maybe the same amount of pop than Judah.

                    I don't think Floyd or Pac is naturally stronger than Clottey... But, I think they have more power than Clottey...

                    I think Shane Mosley has more power and hits harder than both of them

                    I think Floyd is just as strong as Cotto. I think that is debatable. I think Cotto is stronger than Pac. I think Cotto hits just a little harder than Floyd. I think Pac and Cotto has the same amount of power.

                    I think Margarito is stronger than both of them. I think he hits harder than Floyd, I think he hits just a lil bit harder than Pac...

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