Freddie Roach Interview with David Tyler 12/30/09

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  • Silky-Flow
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    #21
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
    He said HGH can't be detected in blood again! WTF!
    LOL i couldn't believe what i was reading!! , and it was so funny how the reporter owned "Roach the joke" too, the whole of the Pac camp are mad and clearly have something to hide, Manny needs to stop being a damn coward and take the tests.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #22
      Originally posted by Silky-Flow
      LOL i couldn't believe what i was reading!! , and it was so funny how the reporter owned "Roach the joke" too, the whole of the Pac camp are mad and clearly have something to hide, Manny needs to stop being a damn coward and take the tests.
      I'm happy that the dude didn't let Roach slip that one through, he was a bit agressive and I like that.

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      • Go Blue
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        #23
        HGH isnt detected in blood.

        Thx Roach.

        You dig Pac a deeper hole everyday.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #24
          holy ****. that pretty much screams guilty

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          • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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            #25
            Originally posted by deuce_drop
            this is for yall and mister tyler, the guy with is graduates degree and 30 years working with blood chemistry.........



            this proves freddy right than the guy who is trying to say otherwise to freddie.......

            this is from the side column of the article...........

            AVAILABLE FOOD SUPPLEMENTS USED AS HGH RELEASERS

            Pharmaceutical forms of human growth hormone releasers are available only through prescription or remain in the human-trial stage. But at some nutrition retailers and on dozens of websites, there is another form of HGH releaser: food supplements that cost a couple of dollars a day.

            Some of these products, which go by names including GH Stak and Ageless Foundation, tout the same benefits as synthetic HGH.

            "There seems to be increased marketing of these products around big events, like the Super Bowl and the Olympics," said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. "We saw this at (the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City), and several companies marketed these products again before the 2004 Summer Games.

            "We knew these products were being shipped directly to athletes in '04. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it happens again this summer."

            Because these HGH releasers are nothing more than readily available amino acids, the building blocks of protein, the products don't run afoul of federal law or the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).

            "The HGH experts consulted by WADA strongly believe that amino-acid preparations cannot stimulate the HGH release strongly and substantially enough to have a doping effect," WADA spokesman Frederic Donze wrote in an e-mail.

            A recent study by Syracuse University professor J.A. Kanaley showed that the main ingredient in most food-supplement HGH releasers, arginine, can spur the body's production of HGH when taken orally, although the effects are slight and not long-lasting.

            The effectiveness of arginine is reduced when combined immediately with exercise, but makers of most HGH-releaser supplements advise taking the product before bedtime.

            Gary Wadler, chairman of WADA's Prohibited List and Methods Subcommittee, said to get a sustained HGH boost from such supplements, a person would have to ingest such massive quan****** that it would lead to a severe upset stomach or diarrhea.

            That may not stop elite athletes, according to Nathan Piasecki, a member of the U.S. Greco-Roman wrestling team until a urine sample collected by USADA in January 2007 showed he'd tested positive for anti-estrogenic agents and a steroid. An announcement from USADA in October 2007 said Piasecki established that the positive test stemmed from his use of the over-the-counter food supplement 6-OXO, manufactured by Ergopharm.

            "I feel most elite athletes are pretty scientific in their training," said Piasecki, whose two-year ban ends in February. "They know what's legal, and if (a supplement) makes them feel good, I have no doubt they'd continue to use it even if there were some bad side effects.

            "Once you get to that level, you're going to do whatever possible to get something extra."

            The U.S. Food and Drug Administration -- which has limited authority to investigate supplement companies after the passage of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 -- hasn't cracked down on the maker of a food-supplement HGH releaser since 1999. FDA spokeswoman Susan Cruzan said the agency looks at all food-supplement products on a case-by-case basis.

            PayPal, the online payment company owned by eBay, doesn't take the same approach. It prevents customers from purchasing HGH-releaser supplements, even if they are legal.

            "If the product is marketed and claims to 'act like' or have the same effects as a prescription or illegal drug, we also generally prohibit it," PayPal spokeswoman Charlotte Hills wrote in an e-mail.
            REACHING! U copied and pasted all that BS and it has absolutely nothing to do with HGH and other PEDs.

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            • takler
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              #26
              Originally posted by Aldo-Raine
              HGH isnt detected in blood.

              Thx Roach.

              You dig Pac a deeper hole everyday.
              Supplementary HGH can't be detected in blood as it is camouflaged by the automatic release of natural HGH.

              So, how are you going to detect the replica against the natural ones?

              By inference, replica HGH is very hard to detect especially if was taken before the exercise.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #27
                Damn, dude didn't wanna embarrass Freddie. Or maybe he didn't want threats to his life like the last reporter who wrote something Roach didn't like.

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by takler
                  Supplementary HGH can't be detected in blood as it is camouflaged by the automatic release of natural HGH.

                  So, how are you going to detect the replica against the natural ones?

                  By inference, replica HGH is very hard to detect especially if was taken before the exercise.
                  How is it HGH test done?

                  More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.

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                  • Brother Mouzone
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                    #29
                    why is Pacquiao refusing to take a blood test for the potential fight against Mayweather?

                    FR - Well, it's not really Manny but me,


                    ok first off i don't belive this manny run's the show the test is not being done because he does not want to, not because freddy does not want it ...
                    and even if it was true wh would he let his fighters reputation go down the toilet ?

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                    • Curtiz
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by deuce_drop
                      this is for yall and mister tyler, the guy with is graduates degree and 30 years working with blood chemistry.........



                      this proves freddy right than the guy who is trying to say otherwise to freddie.......

                      this is from the side column of the article...........

                      AVAILABLE FOOD SUPPLEMENTS USED AS HGH RELEASERS

                      Pharmaceutical forms of human growth hormone releasers are available only through prescription or remain in the human-trial stage. But at some nutrition retailers and on dozens of websites, there is another form of HGH releaser: food supplements that cost a couple of dollars a day.

                      Some of these products, which go by names including GH Stak and Ageless Foundation, tout the same benefits as synthetic HGH.

                      "There seems to be increased marketing of these products around big events, like the Super Bowl and the Olympics," said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the United States Anti-Doping Agency. "We saw this at (the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City), and several companies marketed these products again before the 2004 Summer Games.

                      "We knew these products were being shipped directly to athletes in '04. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it happens again this summer."

                      Because these HGH releasers are nothing more than readily available amino acids, the building blocks of protein, the products don't run afoul of federal law or the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).

                      "The HGH experts consulted by WADA strongly believe that amino-acid preparations cannot stimulate the HGH release strongly and substantially enough to have a doping effect," WADA spokesman Frederic Donze wrote in an e-mail.

                      A recent study by Syracuse University professor J.A. Kanaley showed that the main ingredient in most food-supplement HGH releasers, arginine, can spur the body's production of HGH when taken orally, although the effects are slight and not long-lasting.

                      The effectiveness of arginine is reduced when combined immediately with exercise, but makers of most HGH-releaser supplements advise taking the product before bedtime.

                      Gary Wadler, chairman of WADA's Prohibited List and Methods Subcommittee, said to get a sustained HGH boost from such supplements, a person would have to ingest such massive quan****** that it would lead to a severe upset stomach or diarrhea.

                      That may not stop elite athletes, according to Nathan Piasecki, a member of the U.S. Greco-Roman wrestling team until a urine sample collected by USADA in January 2007 showed he'd tested positive for anti-estrogenic agents and a steroid. An announcement from USADA in October 2007 said Piasecki established that the positive test stemmed from his use of the over-the-counter food supplement 6-OXO, manufactured by Ergopharm.

                      "I feel most elite athletes are pretty scientific in their training," said Piasecki, whose two-year ban ends in February. "They know what's legal, and if (a supplement) makes them feel good, I have no doubt they'd continue to use it even if there were some bad side effects.

                      "Once you get to that level, you're going to do whatever possible to get something extra."

                      The U.S. Food and Drug Administration -- which has limited authority to investigate supplement companies after the passage of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 -- hasn't cracked down on the maker of a food-supplement HGH releaser since 1999. FDA spokeswoman Susan Cruzan said the agency looks at all food-supplement products on a case-by-case basis.

                      PayPal, the online payment company owned by eBay, doesn't take the same approach. It prevents customers from purchasing HGH-releaser supplements, even if they are legal.

                      "If the product is marketed and claims to 'act like' or have the same effects as a prescription or illegal drug, we also generally prohibit it," PayPal spokeswoman Charlotte Hills wrote in an e-mail.
                      u inject HGH

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