A typical Duck move

[fugu]

that's not the point, the point is olympic blood testing has NEVER EVER been done before a fight! even in the olympics
pacquiao agreed to a blood right after the fight anyways
and roach said he will make manny take blood test 3-5days before the fight

How it has been in the past is a moot point. The point of testing is to prevent cheating. Obviously it hasnt worked great sofar.

The highly trained experts at BALCO and USADA says urin is worthless for EPO and HGH testing and without random bloodtesting the window to cheat will be gigantic.

Therefore there should be random bloodtesting.

After the fight? That is pointless. The main advantage is to use these things during camp and buildup.

Give a good reason to NOT accept random blood testing.
It DOES NOT make a fighter weakened. Leading experts has said so and the videos of Pacquiao taking tests 14 days before hatton is solid proof of this.

Stop being a fan of Pacquiao or Floyd. Be a fan of boxing and demand a clean fight for the biggest fight of our time.

[pugay_kamay]

and besides manny agree to take the test, just not the random so that he could focus more on training.

"But obviously manny has something to hide"

who knows? maybe athlete's foot?

maybe ring worm?

[overlordbox]

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I would have to agree
how else can you explain all the *******s flocking together to this thread
burn
can you feel the fizzle?

quack?






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[fugu]

I'll ask you this, why the hell Floyd is asking for a Olympic style blood test then, when all of his previous opponents weren't subjected to this test?

His past opponents didnt move up from 108 to 147 and knocking people unconsious.

[overlordbox]

How it has been in the past is a moot point. The point of testing is to prevent cheating. Obviously it hasnt worked great sofar.

The highly trained experts at BALCO and USADA says urin is worthless for EPO and HGH testing and without random bloodtesting the window to cheat will be gigantic.

Therefore there should be random bloodtesting.

After the fight? That is pointless. The main advantage is to use these things during camp and buildup.

Give a good reason to NOT accept random blood testing.
It DOES NOT make a fighter weakened. Leading experts has said so and the videos of Pacquiao taking tests 14 days before hatton is solid proof of this.

Stop being a fan of Pacquiao or Floyd. Be a fan of boxing and demand a clean fight for the biggest fight of our time.

Fact 1
Pacquiao agreed to take blood test right after the fight
roach said he WILL make manny take random blood test from 3-5 days before the fight


so are you saying that most olympians who won gold are cheaters? because they've never been tested before a fight before

[fugu]

and besides manny agree to take the test, just not the random so that he could focus more on training.

Seriously? Really?
Its not like the testers jump into the ring during sparring and says "FREEZE MOTHER****ER!"
Its a very very quick procedure. Have you never taken a blood test at your local hospital?

That is a bull**** reason not to take random tests.

[overlordbox]

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His past opponents didnt move up from 108 to 147 and knocking people unconsious.

and that is evidence enough to prove someone must be on steroids?

[fugu]

Fact 1
Pacquiao agreed to take blood test right after the fight
roach said he WILL make manny take random blood test from 3-5 days before the fight


so are you saying that most olympians who won gold are cheaters? because they've never been tested before a fight before

AFTER THE FIGHT WONT MEAN ****. Dont you understand that? This **** can be out of the system within hours according to a leading expert in the BALCO CEO.

What Roach says is besides the point. How about the weeks leading up to these 3-5 days before fight?
Take random tests.. Is it really that hard? Yes it is if you have something to hide.

Regarding your question about olympians, yes most likely alot of them cheated.

[fugu]

and that is evidence enough to prove someone must be on steroids?

It is not proof but it makes random bloodtests pretty obvious of a demand.

Its like if im found on a site of a crime. If im covered in blood there is reason to check me up as a suspect.

Obviously Pacquiao dont want to clear his name.

[overlordbox]

Seriously? Really?
Its not like the testers jump into the ring during sparring and says "FREEZE MOTHER****ER!"
Its a very very quick procedure. Have you never taken a blood test at your local hospital?

That is a bull**** reason not to take random tests.

And we are NOT talking about just a drop of blood here. Here's what 2008 Jamaican Olympics sprinter Asafa Powell said in an article publised by Yahoo.com,

Asafa Powell complained he was tested excessively during the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, in which he won a gold medal as a member of his nation’s 4 x 100 meter relay team. “I got pretty upset two days ago because since I have been here, they have tested me four times,” Powell said during the 2008 Games. “They’ve taken so much blood from us we’re going to be very weak before the final.”