Comments Thread For: You’ve got to admit… Floyd Mayweather is Right

[bxr09]

Lame!

Lyle, you're an Idi..t. Pacman was walking around 140-150 for the last 5 years. Go check out his actual fight weight after the weigh-ins since 2004-2005. So he took steroids and basically gained 4-5 lbs huh!? So when people say he gained 40lbs, they think he just gained it in a year LOL!. he was 106 at 16yrs old! Go and check out mayweathers weight at that age.

So when poeple talk out of their asses like PBF Sr, it's not like they go to the library of congress and do their research.

[levz]

OK simple like that why not fight Pacquiao using boxing standard procedure (NSCA)? Is NSCA is dumb commission?

Pacquiao is willing to test 30 day and after fight? Why should demand like days before then after fight? Making him weak? whats the difference of 30 day+post fight test AND days +post fight test?

Both Floyd and Pac are found clean (NSCA)in their previews fight

Why Mayweathers/GBP are on athletic style of testing is there an issue? Is Pacquiao found guilty using illegal substance in his previous fight? Concerned with the last performance with Cotto, Hatton, ODLH? even found out clean by NSCA?

[Fearless BONG]

SHAME on the Mayweathers, Oscars, Schaefers and Ellerbes.
You made people believe sugar is as salty as the dead sea.
Shame on you guys.
You set different standards in picking a fight with Manny Pacquiao.
Shame on you guys.
You blabber as you put your feet where your mouths are.
Shame on you guys.
You are scuttling the biggest fight boxing fans will die to see for.
If and when the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is called off, it will not be because Manny does not want to do it.
It is because you guys don’t want it to happen.
Is Manny on the ‘roids?
Maybe yes. Maybe not.
But if your bases are Manny’s phenomenal success in carrying his speed and power punches and more as he continues to move up in weight, you are dead wrong because it did not happen overnight.
Maybe you did not see Manny’s siblings and estranged father.
Maybe you missed seeing Manny’s younger brother Bobby tip the scales at 130 pounds while Manny was fighting at 126 pounds.
Maybe you did not bother ask what the weight of Manny’s brother Rogel was on times he was in Las Vegas to watch his superstar brother annihilate all marquee boxers Golden Boy threw against him inside the ring.
Or maybe you just conveniently found the door for Floyd Mayweather Jr’s graceful exit so he could keep his clean record intact.
There is a formula to end the impasse you yourself created.
If you were willing to shell out $10 million for every pound or a fraction thereof in fines if Floyd comes in over the weight limit, you could have as well demanded that Manny forfeit his guaranteed purse if he comes out ‘dirty’ and on the ‘roids.
And Manny could also demand that the winner takes all of the guaranteed purses if he is clean and wins against Floyd.
Don’t worry. Floyd will not come out empty handed. He will have his share in the live gate proceeds, the close circuit TV, and fight merchandise and upside of the PPV. Manny could even underwrite the taxes that the IRS will withhold from Floyd.
You are playing high-stake poker?
You might as well go all in.
But to insist and be inflexible in Olympic-style blood testing is to display hypocrisy at its worst.
You have not demanded this against any boxer Floyd Jr and rest of Golden Boy’s wards have fought.
Why demand it now when the fight is all but sealed and delivered?
Manny could afford to walk away from the fight on principle and not out of fear.
If and when this fight pushes through and Manny comes out clean and then proceed to annihilate Floyd, the Filipino boxer will have the last laugh.
Mark my word.

[American Dream]

I have no business denying what his plan was I guess. I'll give you that, but if you don't think it took him a while to get his timing down and do some damage you're just wrong. Come on, he could have dismantled Hatton within 3 rounds, tired or not if he was able to place his punches and counter the way he was later in the fight. You act like I'm taking something away from him. I'm just stating facts, he couldn't hit him clean until later in the fight. That's not part of his training camp strategy, that's figuring a guy out on the fly. It's a compliment to Floyd and a knock on his uncle.

well of course. Im saying that because you outbox a man by a late round KO, doesnt make it greater than a 1st/2nd round KO..Floyd doesnt go for the KO..thats been his critique from many analysis...he prefers to outbox..but (according to him prefight)he knew Hatton would tire soon..but basically I agree with some of your points.

[edgarg]

[QUOTE=Calilloyd;7113988]

"greatness is beating an undefeated, had never been knocked down Chico Corrales..("

Corrales was a great win,corrales wasn't that great(RIP) but Floyd beat him so easy.
I could ***** about Chico being weight drained but it's a *****s sport.

You could but you would be lying. Corrales fought at that same weight for almost 4 more years. And he won another title at that weight. Saying Corrales was weight drained for Mayweather is just a pathetic attempt to discredit the win.

Sorry to disappoint you, whoever you are. but Corrales was seriously weight drained , spent the whole day previous to weigh in, in a sweat box, as well as part of the weigh-in morning. As it was, he failed the 1st weigh-in. As well known writer TK Stewart said, when he saw him, his skin grey, all his ribs sticking out, and could barely stand, he knew he had no chance to win, even though, [by those who didn't attend the weigh in,] he was fancied to beat Mayweather, and on his past record, he should have.

But that didn't take into account the fact that over 6 months before, Corrales had given up the 130 weight class. Also, he didn't train properly for this fight, even if he had a chance to come in at the right weight, since he was going to jail for 2 years right after the fight. His trainer said he couldn't get him out of his room to train, he spent all his time playing computer games.

Larry Merchant said that when he was passing Corrales' dressing room, just before the fight, Corrales was stuffing down a huge hamburger sandwich, [I think actually he said, "scoffing down"] as if he hadn't eaten for a year.

When Corrales was interviewed shortly before the fight, he was asked about his problem making weight, and he said, after a big sigh, " Well, it isn't easy" and when further asked why he took the fight at that weight, he said, "Well they made me an offer I couldn't refuse".

It was well known that Corrales was going to jail,. and also that he was absolutely broke, and need money desperately to pay his legal bills etc.

It's quite easy to see that the Mayweather Brains Trust deliberately "cherry-picked this poor guy, who was desperate for cash, and on his way to jail. And his wife was leaving him.

What sort of a mental state do you guys think he was in??? He must have been completely shattered.

[Ben d great]

Mayweather is to blame

It is true Mayweather demand a test beyond normal circumtances, Why not fight the usual way and show to the world this is boxing that demanding a new kind of test in a professional boxing history. If they want change why not give the petition to the commissions that this test should be done in every fight in professional boxing bout in any state in America or in the world than to have this testing to a single bout or citing only to a single person or two. Lets be real in here. Mayweathers is not the boxing commissions they dont have to decide what to do in boxing.

Lets see what the other said:

http://www.theboxingbulletin.com/

Pacquiao - Mayweather: The Blame Game...
by A.F. on Dec 28, 2009 11:34 PM EST in Feature Stories 0 comments



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Who is to blame for the Pacquiao - Mayweather situation? With the mega-fight on the verge of falling apart, Jeff Pryor takes a look at where each fighter's responsibility lies for the current mess.


Setting aside the bickering and opinions on whether Pacquiao should/shouldn't/will/won't agree to additional blood testing beyond the norm in a proposed showdown with Mayweather.... at the end of the day, the blame for this fight falling through is on Floyd.

He has made a demand, asking for something above and beyond normal circumstance. It's Pacquiao's right to refuse it. If it's a deal breaker for Floyd, which it apparently is, then he can walk. The onus isn't on Pacquiao to give in to a fairly unprecedented demand in the sport.

Not saying he shouldn't do it, or that it doesn't cast a pallor over his recent victories by refusing, but ultimately the blame is at Floyd's feet because he is the one introducing a roadblock here, into what otherwise would be the standard procedures each man has adhered to throughout their nearly 27 years of professional boxing.

The fact is, either guy can demand anything they want... but if your demand isn't met, and thats why the deal isn't happening, that's where the fault lies.

[pogingbagsik]

All i can say is mayweather is *****.. Maywether sr. Said in youtube that even pac taking steroids or not he will kick his ass,, and now u have alot a drama why dount u fight *****!!

[boytit]

Lyle, you said that you have a simple remedy for this fight to happen. that pacman should block the exit, take the needle & agreed to random tests for the fans,boxing and his account. Well how about returning this favor to you that Mayweather should be the one block the exit.all he has to do is to agree; tests before the pre-fight conf., 30days before the fight & tests right after the fight. whats the difference?you said that in no way youre accusing pac on something that what about the other way around? remember, Manny Pacquiao is the puond for pound king here and not Floyd...

[deuce_drop]

SHAME on the Mayweathers, Oscars, Schaefers and Ellerbes.
You made people believe sugar is as salty as the dead sea.
Shame on you guys.
You set different standards in picking a fight with Manny Pacquiao.
Shame on you guys.
You blabber as you put your feet where your mouths are.
Shame on you guys.
You are scuttling the biggest fight boxing fans will die to see for.
If and when the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is called off, it will not be because Manny does not want to do it.
It is because you guys don’t want it to happen.
Is Manny on the ‘roids?
Maybe yes. Maybe not.
But if your bases are Manny’s phenomenal success in carrying his speed and power punches and more as he continues to move up in weight, you are dead wrong because it did not happen overnight.
Maybe you did not see Manny’s siblings and estranged father.
Maybe you missed seeing Manny’s younger brother Bobby tip the scales at 130 pounds while Manny was fighting at 126 pounds.
Maybe you did not bother ask what the weight of Manny’s brother Rogel was on times he was in Las Vegas to watch his superstar brother annihilate all marquee boxers Golden Boy threw against him inside the ring.
Or maybe you just conveniently found the door for Floyd Mayweather Jr’s graceful exit so he could keep his clean record intact.
There is a formula to end the impasse you yourself created.
If you were willing to shell out $10 million for every pound or a fraction thereof in fines if Floyd comes in over the weight limit, you could have as well demanded that Manny forfeit his guaranteed purse if he comes out ‘dirty’ and on the ‘roids.
And Manny could also demand that the winner takes all of the guaranteed purses if he is clean and wins against Floyd.
Don’t worry. Floyd will not come out empty handed. He will have his share in the live gate proceeds, the close circuit TV, and fight merchandise and upside of the PPV. Manny could even underwrite the taxes that the IRS will withhold from Floyd.
You are playing high-stake poker?
You might as well go all in.
But to insist and be inflexible in Olympic-style blood testing is to display hypocrisy at its worst.
You have not demanded this against any boxer Floyd Jr and rest of Golden Boy’s wards have fought.
Why demand it now when the fight is all but sealed and delivered?
Manny could afford to walk away from the fight on principle and not out of fear.
If and when this fight pushes through and Manny comes out clean and then proceed to annihilate Floyd, the Filipino boxer will have the last laugh.
Mark my word.

long winded diatribe but 100% correct, i like some of the proposals, only thing, which is funny you bring up hypocrisy and ********, poker, is, floyd talks about being a big gambler and being so confident that pacquiao is easy work, easy money, he isnt willing to make a deal such as you proposed and really be a gambler and put it on the line.
i laugh every time i see floyd gamble, he bets like a jokester, anyway, he tries and play it big, pushing through what you suggest, which i think is straight up, is too much for floyd. with all that ****iness he wouldn't dare go for a score like that. nice one.

[bigtexask9]

Lyle acts like he wants to marry Mayweather. Are you a writer or a pervert? I understand Mayweather disposition on this issue, but its not like Pacquiao is excluding the whole drug test itself. The man said he would even take a blood test right after the fight, so that means if he drops Floyd and the ref counts to 10, then boom off to the dressing room he goes. It's a bit ridiculous for the Mayweather camp to be this strenuous and acting this scared, when indeed Floyd was doing all that noise-talking during retirement and claiming he could dismantle Pacman in all those statements everytime Pac fought someone. Now he finally gets the opportunity after around 3 or 4 years later and he wants an FBI autospy drug test, because he sense Pacquiao can knock him clean out and prove everyone right that he has fought nothing but over the hill bums for most of his career. Who cares if Floyd can speak a full sentence clearly and goes out his way to woo fans by acting a fool and being disrespectful to himself. The bottom line is people want to see this clown finally fight someone respectable and not a sanitation worker, or someone who works in a factory being toss in the ring. He is the only fighter I know with a good record that has not fought anybody worthy. Hell Jermaine Taylor lost 4 of his last 5 fights and people respect his fight game more than Mayweather. There is no way he is rank up there with Leonard, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Hearns, fighting "has been's" and "nobody's." And when he does finally agree to fight worthy opponents, he becomes the police. I like his defensive skills, and when he does speak with decency, but everything else is irritating and hideous about this clown.