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    #81
    Originally posted by Six Shooter
    True, just shows how easy it is to cycle them when you know when the test is.
    you guys would not know he used steroid, because of how terrible he look against Oscar. My point is, if a boxer used steroid, its not guarantee he will be an ATG. And if you think steroid or HGH can a help a boxer, could you tell me how?

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      #82
      Originally posted by M@nny
      Now I've heard it all. This is getting absurd. Come on people; I hope you're not being serious about this new "discovery". PEDs made his head and hands grow??? Really? Which PED are we talking about here? Is there a variant of the product Extenze which targets only the hands and head?
      Following the federal indictment of Barry Bonds for perjury and obstruction of justice last week, media reports cited the baseball player's refusal to "admit that steroids contributed to his swollen head and bloated physique," and drew a line from his alleged use of performance-enhancing drugs to his "noticeably bigger" skull. Can doping really make your head get bigger?

      Yes, but steroids can't. Although much of Bonds' testimony dealt with anabolic steroids, he is also charged with having lied about taking human growth hormones. And HGH can indeed affect the size of your noggin. The hormone, which is produced by the pituitary gland, normally stimulates bone and tissue growth throughout the body. If there's too much of it, the body starts to develop an abnormal amount of flesh and bone. This affects the entire body to some degree, but in some places the chemical receptors tend to be especially sensitive. In an adult, very large doses of HGH can cause the skull to thicken and the forehead and eyebrow ridge to become especially prominent. Hands and feet also grow out of proportion with the rest of the body.


      There goes that HGH thing again.
      Following the federal indictment of Barry Bonds for perjury and obstruction of justice last week, media reports cited the baseball player's refusal to...

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        #83
        Originally posted by 4773Y350NM3
        you guys would not know he used steroid, because of how terrible he look against Oscar. My point is, if a boxer used steroid, its not guarantee he will be an ATG. And if you think steroid or HGH can a help a boxer, could you tell me how?
        Human Growth Hormone and Pro Athletes, Perfect Together
        March 4, 2007 by Sal Marinello


        Here is a list of reasons as to why HGH – right now – is the ideal drug for athletes. With the latest edition of the steroids in sport scandal that involves professional athletes from Major League Baseball, as well as other sports, people need to understand why these supplements are desirable to pro athletes.

        And you won’t get this kind of info if you depend on the mainstream media and sports news outlets…

        Body builders have enjoyed the benefits of human growth hormone, used in conjunction with a variety of other anabolic agents, for over 20 years but only in recent years have legit athletes started to catch on to this “better” kind of performance enhancing drugs.

        1) HGH provides a potent anabolic effect; it builds muscle. Without turning this into a biochem lesson – especially since that’s way over my head – suffice to say that HGH increases the body’s ability to synthesize protein, and that this allows for muscle tissue to be built. HGH use produces the holy grail of all anabolic benefits, hyperplasia. Hyperplasia is the permanent increase in the amount of muscle cells. Over the years there have been many steroids that were alleged to result in creating new muscle cells, but HGH is the substance that actually delivers this incredible benefit. HGH also increases the size of existing muscle cells.

        So with HGH you have a situation where the size of existing muscle cells are increased AND a permanent creation of new muscle cells. So a person could go on a cycle of HGH therapy, which would create new muscle cells that remain after HGH therapy stops. The longer the person remains on this regimen the more new muscle cells will be produced. This person would then have more muscle than he did before the therapy and reap all of the performance benefits that come with increased muscle even after the end of therapy.

        Additionally, HGH has a positive strengthening affect on connective tissues such as ligaments, tendons and cartilage and at an accelerated rate. Old injuries will heal and these tissues will be strengthened which can potentially minimize future injuries as well. There is no doubt that human growth hormone therapy is being used in conjunction with the surgery and rehab of professional athletes, which has had the effect of getting athletes back on the field quicker than ever. These connective tissue benefits make HGH much more attractive than the use of old school steroids, as steroids only positively affect muscle tissue, while having a negative effect on connective tissue.

        2) HGH provides metabolic benefits such as helping the body burn more fat than usual, and serves as a protein-sparing agent as well. HGH administration triggers the release of fatty acids from fat stores and the body winds up burning more fat than carbohydrates to meet energy requirements. This is why athletes on HGH can have extremely low levels of body fat while maintaining extremely high levels of muscle mass.

        Without drugs, there is a kind of equilibrium between body fat and muscle mass. If body fat is too low a person’s muscle mass will decrease as well. HGH also has an anti-catabolic effect (protein sparing), which means that muscle protein isn’t broken down during periods of intense exercise or in the case of calorie restriction. This anti-catabolic effect means that athletes can recovery quicker from competition and training.

        3) HGH is legal and can be acquired and administered by a physician, and as a result, the intelligent athlete can use medical privacy regulations to avoid the spotlight. The dose at which HGH is effective is small, which minimizes risk and – in most cases – allows the physician to avoid breaking any laws or breaching any ethical standards.

        Additionally, due to the stresses of professional sports there is a very good chance that most – if not all athletes – would test for low hormonal levels during their season. This means HGH can be administered in order to normalize an athlete’s levels. This kind of the****utic dose can provide enormous benefits to an athlete during their season. This is an important distinction to make. If an athlete does test for low HGH levels – which most would or could – this is a case of using HGH as it is intended and not abusing it.

        There are doctors all across the country that are openly practicing this kind of medicine. One could argue that these doctors are incorrect in their uses of HGH, but this argument doesn’t seem to hold any more weight than the counter argument that there are no appropriate “off-label” uses of HGH. These are the major reasons as to why HGH is so popular among athletes.

        There are other reasons as well, but this is enough for now. And it is worth noting that testosterone when used in similarly appropriate doses, in conjunction with HGH is an extremely potent supplement ****tail from which all athletes would benefit greatly.

        Remember, this isn’t an effort to rationalize or justify the use of HGH and testosterone. I am simply recognizing and pointing out reasons why athletes – or anybody who works out for that matter – would find these substances so desirable. What I will say is that when you understand what these drugs can do for athletes, and understand the nature of risks involved with playing professional sports – especially football – the case can be made that some supplementation may be appropriate and even necessary.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Easy Work
          Following the federal indictment of Barry Bonds for perjury and obstruction of justice last week, media reports cited the baseball player's refusal to "admit that steroids contributed to his swollen head and bloated physique," and drew a line from his alleged use of performance-enhancing drugs to his "noticeably bigger" skull. Can doping really make your head get bigger?

          Yes, but steroids can't. Although much of Bonds' testimony dealt with anabolic steroids, he is also charged with having lied about taking human growth hormones. And HGH can indeed affect the size of your noggin. The hormone, which is produced by the pituitary gland, normally stimulates bone and tissue growth throughout the body. If there's too much of it, the body starts to develop an abnormal amount of flesh and bone. This affects the entire body to some degree, but in some places the chemical receptors tend to be especially sensitive. In an adult, very large doses of HGH can cause the skull to thicken and the forehead and eyebrow ridge to become especially prominent. Hands and feet also grow out of proportion with the rest of the body.


          There goes that HGH thing again.
          http://www.slate.com/id/2178288/
          OUCH AGAIN!

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          • S A M U R A I
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            #85
            Originally posted by USADA
            Pre-fight picture at the press conference VS weigh-in Pic. The weigh-in Pic, his head is STILL LARGER. Oh, and with no hair showing, LOL

            2008





            2009

            I'm wondering how Pacquiao remainds upright. Looks like the size of his head would cause the average man to fall over.
            More ******ity. Look at the angle of the pic. Manny's body is side-on, making the focus his head with no real comparison to his body. Compare his head to Oscar's, plus consider he has more hair than Oscar. It looks normal.

            These comparison pics are a waste of everybody's time because the subject is so ridiculous, but look at more images from the same weigh-in:







            Nothing unusual at all. Let's stop with this bull**** already.



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              #86
              Originally posted by dondi33o
              ouch again!
              nsac nsac nsac!!

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                #87
                Originally posted by Anton-Chigurh
                Well todays your lucky day.

                HGH....

                "Many athletes have taken to using HGH for its claimed muscle building and stamina increasing properties."


                "The most common side effect of the excess use of HGH is acromegaly. This is a medical condition that begins with the overgrowth of facial bone and connective tissue, leading to a changed appearance due to protruding jaw and eyebrow bones. This condition also leads to an abnormal growth of the hands , head and feet."



                END this thread now!

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by anton-chigurh
                  human growth hormone and pro athletes, perfect together
                  march 4, 2007 by sal marinello


                  here is a list of reasons as to why hgh – right now – is the ideal drug for athletes. With the latest edition of the steroids in sport scandal that involves professional athletes from major league baseball, as well as other sports, people need to understand why these supplements are desirable to pro athletes.

                  And you won’t get this kind of info if you depend on the mainstream media and sports news outlets…

                  body builders have enjoyed the benefits of human growth hormone, used in conjunction with a variety of other anabolic agents, for over 20 years but only in recent years have legit athletes started to catch on to this “better” kind of performance enhancing drugs.

                  1) hgh provides a potent anabolic effect; it builds muscle. Without turning this into a biochem lesson – especially since that’s way over my head – suffice to say that hgh increases the body’s ability to synthesize protein, and that this allows for muscle tissue to be built. Hgh use produces the holy grail of all anabolic benefits, hyperplasia. Hyperplasia is the permanent increase in the amount of muscle cells. Over the years there have been many steroids that were alleged to result in creating new muscle cells, but hgh is the substance that actually delivers this incredible benefit. Hgh also increases the size of existing muscle cells.

                  So with hgh you have a situation where the size of existing muscle cells are increased and a permanent creation of new muscle cells. So a person could go on a cycle of hgh therapy, which would create new muscle cells that remain after hgh therapy stops. The longer the person remains on this regimen the more new muscle cells will be produced. This person would then have more muscle than he did before the therapy and reap all of the performance benefits that come with increased muscle even after the end of therapy.

                  Additionally, hgh has a positive strengthening affect on connective tissues such as ligaments, tendons and cartilage and at an accelerated rate. Old injuries will heal and these tissues will be strengthened which can potentially minimize future injuries as well. There is no doubt that human growth hormone therapy is being used in conjunction with the surgery and rehab of professional athletes, which has had the effect of getting athletes back on the field quicker than ever. These connective tissue benefits make hgh much more attractive than the use of old school steroids, as steroids only positively affect muscle tissue, while having a negative effect on connective tissue.

                  2) hgh provides metabolic benefits such as helping the body burn more fat than usual, and serves as a protein-sparing agent as well. Hgh administration triggers the release of fatty acids from fat stores and the body winds up burning more fat than carbohydrates to meet energy requirements. This is why athletes on hgh can have extremely low levels of body fat while maintaining extremely high levels of muscle mass.

                  Without drugs, there is a kind of equilibrium between body fat and muscle mass. If body fat is too low a person’s muscle mass will decrease as well. Hgh also has an anti-catabolic effect (protein sparing), which means that muscle protein isn’t broken down during periods of intense exercise or in the case of calorie restriction. This anti-catabolic effect means that athletes can recovery quicker from competition and training.

                  3) hgh is legal and can be acquired and administered by a physician, and as a result, the intelligent athlete can use medical privacy regulations to avoid the spotlight. The dose at which hgh is effective is small, which minimizes risk and – in most cases – allows the physician to avoid breaking any laws or breaching any ethical standards.

                  Additionally, due to the stresses of professional sports there is a very good chance that most – if not all athletes – would test for low hormonal levels during their season. This means hgh can be administered in order to normalize an athlete’s levels. This kind of the****utic dose can provide enormous benefits to an athlete during their season. This is an important distinction to make. If an athlete does test for low hgh levels – which most would or could – this is a case of using hgh as it is intended and not abusing it.

                  There are doctors all across the country that are openly practicing this kind of medicine. One could argue that these doctors are incorrect in their uses of hgh, but this argument doesn’t seem to hold any more weight than the counter argument that there are no appropriate “off-label” uses of hgh. These are the major reasons as to why hgh is so popular among athletes.

                  There are other reasons as well, but this is enough for now. And it is worth noting that testosterone when used in similarly appropriate doses, in conjunction with hgh is an extremely potent supplement ****tail from which all athletes would benefit greatly.

                  Remember, this isn’t an effort to rationalize or justify the use of hgh and testosterone. I am simply recognizing and pointing out reasons why athletes – or anybody who works out for that matter – would find these substances so desirable. What i will say is that when you understand what these drugs can do for athletes, and understand the nature of risks involved with playing professional sports – especially football – the case can be made that some supplementation may be appropriate and even necessary.
                  nsac nsac nsac nsac nsac

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                  • Dondi33O
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                    More ******ity. Look at the angle of the pic. Manny's body is side-on, making the focus his head with no real comparison to his body. Compare his head to Oscar's, plus consider he has more hair than Oscar. It looks normal.

                    These comparison pics are a waste of everybody's time because the subject is so ridiculous, but look at more images from the same weigh-in:







                    Nothing unusual at all. Let's stop with this bull**** already.
                    I dont know but I would rather take a head butt from Hoya, Cotto or Morales than to take one from Pac.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Dondi33O
                      I dont know but I would rather take a head butt from Hoya, Cotto or Morales than to take one from Pac.
                      You're given a valid argument and that's how you reply, makes me think that we're talking to kids.

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