GBP in bed with USADA

[-The Glove-]

Thanks everyone for posting. Glad to see all the intelligent commentary it has provoked.

[-The Glove-]

disrupt training and focus ? a blood test takes half a ****ing second to do....but sitting on his ass during like three moonsons, playing pick up games of basketball, spending hours and hours on a move set, doing apperances on show's all over the phillippines is not disrupting to his training ?

I think you've got it wrong. When a fighter trains, he doesn't train every second of every day. There's a big difference in a doping specialist coming to your gym in the middle of training or waking you up in the middle of the night, and enjoying hobbies or doing other things in your down time. Basically down time is scheduled, so can you really say it's disruptive?

[LeeVanCleef]

A great antidote for the rocket scientists / witch doctors =)

[HighUnderground]

I think you've got it wrong. When a fighter trains, he doesn't train every second of every day. There's a big difference in a doping specialist coming to your gym in the middle of training or waking you up in the middle of the night, and enjoying hobbies or doing other things in your down time. Basically down time is scheduled, so can you really say it's disruptive?

I think the idea that they would really be taking it to the extreme of making them test in the middle of the night is just posturing from Pacquiao's supporters. Based on what I've gathered from reading the code, the testing is completely random unless a specific athlete is singled out for "Target Testing".

One could say, "oh, see, they are just gonna single out Manny". Well, yeah, they probably would at this point. However, the reasoning for that is because of how well he falls into the criteria of what typically arises su****ion about athletes using PED's. His actions of late will also add to that su****ion.

Strictly from a PR standpoint, Manny has the most to gain from submitting to the tests and then going on to fight Floyd. That is, of course, assuming he is clean.

[menoari]

Just had to revisit this thread.

I agree that Pac would benefit from just agreeing to the random testing without a cut-off from a PR point. If he feels, for whatever reason, that he is disadvantaged if he were to give blood near the fight then it is his prerogative to request a cut-off or modification to the original request (these are all contractual stipulations after all and not in violation of any boxing regulation)

Part of the problem here is that it isn't even clear which PEDs are in play and how are they suppose to be found (blood, urine, others?). Reminds me of the saying - ignorance is bliss! LOL.

[menoari]

Good discussion, I agree.

One difficulty I see with respect to this testing program is that while there are general standards to follow, it appears that the actual implementation as regards each fighter will differ. What may be "random" enough for one fighter may not be "random" enough for the other. The ADO people involved could determine based on their standards that they would have to be stricter with one and could go easier on the other. There is, it would seem, much room for arbitrariness.

I think this is the point being averred to by Team Pac with wanting some other body aside from the USADA to do the test.

I can't say USADA will be biased but I am sure there are other organizations that are capable also of doing the testing