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  • El Jesus
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    #21
    Originally posted by NYU Alum.
    You're wrong. Yes, controversy sells. But, it doesn't help elevate the sport !!

    Basically, my point is, controversy to sell a fight is short $$$$. Just look at the NB* and NF*, how quick they're to fine a player for saying certain things or acting a certain way, mainstream America is very image conscious !!

    How the f**k is Mo**ey Mayweather suppose to elevate boxing outside of what it is now, the redlight district of the sports world !!

    And PAC was right, being a big-time boxer is a huge responsibility because they're the face of the sport !!
    The only way mayweather would be truely be doing the sport a diservice is if he was a fruad in terms of his skills or if he was a fradulent champion. The fact is, floyd is the one of the most skilled fighters in the game, with pac having one of the most exciting styles in the game, you match them together and you get a megafight.
    Thats all that matters to me. Again, you seem to think that mayweather is somehow bringing down the sport, when ironically, in this decade hes about to participate in 2 of the most popular selling fights of all time.

    Somehow i think hes doing something right. You can say im wrong, but what it comes down to is mayweather elevates the sport with what he does, you dont have to like it, but it works. Fights like cotto/pac are nice, but fights like pac/mayweather are once in a lifetime because they are two once in a lifetime fighters.

    And i dont care if mayweather is just in it for the money, all of these guys are. I dont buy all this good guy ****, all of these guys have their flaws. The fact is, unlike pac and unlike cotto, mayweather doesnt have some sub ethnic fanbase he can tap into, wave some other countries flag around and draw people in. His style doesnt permit a huge leigon of fans, hes just not going to be that guy, so he does what he knows will work. If you dont like it, you should have supported him when he was humble pretty boy, had that happened, he would have never resorted to this ****

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      #22
      Originally posted by El Jesus
      The only way mayweather would be truely be doing the sport a diservice is if he was a fruad in terms of his skills or if he was a fradulent champion. The fact is, floyd is the one of the most skilled fighters in the game, with pac having one of the most exciting styles in the game, you match them together and you get a megafight.
      Thats all that matters to me. Again, you seem to think that mayweather is somehow bringing down the sport, when ironically, in this decade hes about to participate in 2 of the most popular selling fights of all time.

      Somehow i think hes doing something right. You can say im wrong, but what it comes down to is mayweather elevates the sport with what he does, you dont have to like it, but it works. Fights like cotto/pac are nice, but fights like pac/mayweather are once in a lifetime because they are two once in a lifetime fighters.

      And i dont care if mayweather is just in it for the money, all of these guys are. I dont buy all this good guy ****, all of these guys have their flaws. The fact is, unlike pac and unlike cotto, mayweather doesnt have some sub ethnic fanbase he can tap into, wave some other countries flag around and draw people in. His style doesnt permit a huge leigon of fans, hes just not going to be that guy, so he does what he knows will work. If you dont like it, you should have supported him when he was humble pretty boy, had that happened, he would have never resorted to this ****
      How many times did I say that controversy sells(hence his PPV buys) !! But, in the end it's short $$$. It doesn't do anything to elevate the sport !!

      Why do you think PAC has N1ke sponsoring his @ss and not Mo**ey ?
      Last edited by NYU Alum.; 12-27-2009, 04:45 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by NYU Alum.
        How many times did I say that controversy sells(hence his PPV buys) !! But, in the end it's short $$$. It doesn't do anything to elevate the sport !!

        Why do you think PAC has N1ke sponsoring his @ss and not Mo**ey ?
        This sport isnt going anywhere. You keep saying its "short money", boxing isnt Elite XC, where its going to live and die by one fighter. You are just too caught up in mayweathers personality. You need people like him in the sport, and there has ALWAYS been people like him regardless.

        I dont know, nor do i care why nike sponsers pac and not mayweather, i dont see any of that money, nor am i in their board room making the desicion. But Nike sponsering pac doesnt somehow elevate pac over mayweather, it just means they reached a deal with pac, and not mayweather. Nike likely is captiolizing on pac being able to appeal to his ethnic fanbase within his country and within here.

        Regardless, you need to get over the idea that somehow, mayweather is out to ruin the sport, or that its "temporary money" like boxing is going to die if people continue to be contraversial.


        The issues that plauge the sport go far beyond mayweather. Belts having terrible policies and mandatories, every fight being on PPV, the amauter ranks basically being meaningless since they dont show the fights on tv anymore, olympic boxing being a ****ing joke.

        Like i said, you are looking to use mayweather as some kind of scapegoat for a sport that has envoirmental problems as opposed to problems with the fighters themselves. Mayweather basically would love for you to think that so that youll hope and wish someone knocks him the *** out

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          #24
          Originally posted by El Jesus
          This sport isnt going anywhere. You keep saying its "short money", boxing isnt Elite XC, where its going to live and die by one fighter. You are just too caught up in mayweathers personality. You need people like him in the sport, and there has ALWAYS been people like him regardless.

          I dont know, nor do i care why nike sponsers pac and not mayweather, i dont see any of that money, nor am i in their board room making the desicion. But Nike sponsering pac doesnt somehow elevate pac over mayweather, it just means they reached a deal with pac, and not mayweather. Nike likely is captiolizing on pac being able to appeal to his ethnic fanbase within his country and within here.

          Regardless, you need to get over the idea that somehow, mayweather is out to ruin the sport, or that its "temporary money" like boxing is going to die if people continue to be contraversial.


          The issues that plauge the sport go far beyond mayweather. Belts having terrible policies and mandatories, every fight being on PPV, the amauter ranks basically being meaningless since they dont show the fights on tv anymore, olympic boxing being a ****ing joke.

          Like i said, you are looking to use mayweather as some kind of scapegoat for a sport that has envoirmental problems as opposed to problems with the fighters themselves. Mayweather basically would love for you to think that so that youll hope and wish someone knocks him the *** out
          Yeah right on the highlighted part, like they even bothered with Mo**ey Mayweather.

          I agree with your points, but he's not helping it either with his behavior. he's in a position where he can actually do something for the sport and atleast take part in moving it in the right direction !!

          Didn't you hear with what he said in a recent interview, "that when he leaves boxing, the sport is dead" !!
          Last edited by NYU Alum.; 12-27-2009, 05:13 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by NYU Alum.
            Yeah right on the highlighted part, like they even bothered with Mo**ey Mayweather.

            I agree with your points, but he's not helping it either with his behavior. he's in a position where he can actually do something for the sport and atleast take part in moving it in the right direction !!

            Didn't you hear with what he said in a recent interview, "that when he leaves boxing, the sport is dead" !!

            Mayweather participated in a drawing out in the UK for their lightweight tournament and lended his name to draw attention to the tournament, he also paid for the golden gloves tourney out in michigan. He invites fighters to his gym and coaches them all the time. Ask amir kahn.

            Mayweather does alot more than you think.

            And you can dispute my assertion that nike reached a deal with mayweather and not pac, i really dont care, bringing up who has more sponserships within the sport is like arguing album sales to argue why a certain artist is better than another. Im not in nikes board room, and im not seeing any of that money. I dont care who sponsers floyd and other than some exposure, it doesnt mean a whole lot within the spectrum of the sport other than a couple of commercials here and there. What improves the sport is fixing the conditions within it.

            We can argue this all day, but i stand by my original point, fighting the right fights is what helps the sport, period. No one fighter can help kill a sport, you give mayweather more credit than he deserves.
            Last edited by El Jesus; 12-27-2009, 05:19 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by El Jesus
              Mayweather participated in a drawing out in the UK for their lightweight tournament and lended his name to draw attention to the tournament, he also paid for the golden gloves tourney out in michigan. He invites fighters to his gym and coaches them all the time. Ask amir kahn.

              Mayweather does alot more than you think.

              And you can dispute my assertion that nike reached a deal with mayweather and not pac, i really dont care, bringing up who has more sponserships within the sport is like arguing album sales to argue why a certain artist is better than another. Im not in nikes board room, and im not seeing any of that money. I dont care who sponsers floyd and other than some exposure, it doesnt mean a whole lot within the spectrum of the sport other than a couple of commercials here and there. What improves the sport is fixing the conditions within it.

              We can argue this all day, but i stand by my original point, fighting the right fights is what helps the sport, period. No one fighter can help kill a sport, you give mayweather more credit than he deserves.
              LMAO, Okay then, then bring it out to the open if he wants that American support.
              Last edited by NYU Alum.; 12-27-2009, 05:28 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by jose.sooto
                and you think Manny being "the face of the sport" not agreeing to random testings is any good for boxing ? it's a responsibility of his to prove the fans and the sport that he has nothing to hide,this is a guy who cheated on his wife why wouldn't he cheat on us ?
                cheated his wife? do you have proof to that? or youre just one of the gay gossipers who brought gossips to beauty parlors and barber shops

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by El Jesus
                  This sport isnt going anywhere. You keep saying its "short money", boxing isnt Elite XC, where its going to live and die by one fighter. You are just too caught up in mayweathers personality. You need people like him in the sport, and there has ALWAYS been people like him regardless.

                  I dont know, nor do i care why nike sponsers pac and not mayweather, i dont see any of that money, nor am i in their board room making the desicion. But Nike sponsering pac doesnt somehow elevate pac over mayweather, it just means they reached a deal with pac, and not mayweather. Nike likely is captiolizing on pac being able to appeal to his ethnic fanbase within his country and within here.

                  Regardless, you need to get over the idea that somehow, mayweather is out to ruin the sport, or that its "temporary money" like boxing is going to die if people continue to be contraversial.


                  The issues that plauge the sport go far beyond mayweather. Belts having terrible policies and mandatories, every fight being on PPV, the amauter ranks basically being meaningless since they dont show the fights on tv anymore, olympic boxing being a ****ing joke.

                  Like i said, you are looking to use mayweather as some kind of scapegoat for a sport that has envoirmental problems as opposed to problems with the fighters themselves. Mayweather basically would love for you to think that so that youll hope and wish someone knocks him the *** out
                  mayweather is a disgrace to boxing

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by El Jesus
                    Mayweather participated in a drawing out in the UK for their lightweight tournament and lended his name to draw attention to the tournament, he also paid for the golden gloves tourney out in michigan. He invites fighters to his gym and coaches them all the time. Ask amir kahn.

                    Mayweather does alot more than you think.

                    And you can dispute my assertion that nike reached a deal with mayweather and not pac, i really dont care, bringing up who has more sponserships within the sport is like arguing album sales to argue why a certain artist is better than another. Im not in nikes board room, and im not seeing any of that money. I dont care who sponsers floyd and other than some exposure, it doesnt mean a whole lot within the spectrum of the sport other than a couple of commercials here and there. What improves the sport is fixing the conditions within it.

                    We can argue this all day, but i stand by my original point, fighting the right fights is what helps the sport, period. No one fighter can help kill a sport, you give mayweather more credit than he deserves.
                    good post thats what you call

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