Official Statement Made by Manny Pacquiao 12-26-2009

[Foodie One]

Scott your smarter then this...........

He will test clean after the fight because the drugs wont be in his system.......

BUT The speed..strength and stamina he gained will not leave over night..

Which is why Pac wants NO TESTING within 30 Days of the fight....because thats when the PED's will be in his veins.

Hahaha... Baseless speculation. You have no proof of this because you're not even a qualified medical professional that can offer such an opinion on that. Nice try but you've failed to convince anyone. JAT

[rao007]

Scott your smarter then this...........

He will test clean after the fight because the drugs wont be in his system.......

BUT The speed..strength and stamina he gained will not leave over night..

Which is why Pac wants NO TESTING within 30 Days of the fight....because thats when the PED's will be in his veins.

If he was juicing, his RBC count sure as hell wont' disappear right after the fight.

[IMDAZED]

Hahaha... Baseless speculation. You have no proof of this because you're not even a qualified medical professional that can offer such an opinion on that. Nice try but you've failed to convince anyone. JAT

What does Victor Conte have to say about it?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Why would post fight testing be pointless? If MP did test positive, he'd be DQ'd (assuming he even won), fined very heavily (along with leaving himself vulnerable to a civil suit by Mayweather), and he'd lose his boxing license everywhere in the US. That would be pointless? Mayweather has seen all of Pacquaio's fights. Either he thinks he can beat him or not. All this Olympic testing bull**** is just a smokescreen.

Pacquiao and his team have been really dumb as of late. But they're not ****** enough to get caught after having a 30 day cut off. Lets be real here, no chance in hell of that happening.

[Foodie One]

What does Victor Conte have to say about it?

Don't know. Provide a link for my perusal.

[IMDAZED]

Don't know. Provide a link for my perusal.

Here: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...ighlight=conte

You may want to apologize to the other poster.

[Eric_Teaman]

Why do you need to test someone who's "easy work" anyways?

Just in case Money May get KTFO he will have an excuse that PACMAN is on Roids. If he win he can say...you see what happens without Roids?

[freedom213]

From Doghouse

Bottom line is no athlete should dictate terms on testing and boxing needs a universal commission to mandate Olympic style testing on a true random basis. There would have to be a lot of details worked out on this but I am sure it could be done and done fairly. This is not a commentary on whether or not Manny is guilty of anything but rather a commentary on the state of boxing.

My brother in law(not a boxing fan) works in Vegas and does follow a lot of other sports. His comment to me on this fight was anytime an athlete wants to dictate testing or refuses testing it throws a shadow of doubt over the athlete and the entire sport. I like Pac but really couldn't think of an argument that held water.

[Foodie One]

Here: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...ighlight=conte

You may want to apologize to the other poster.

Apologize for what? Find in this statement anything that corroborates what this poster stated:

Originally Posted by lead_right
Which is why Pac wants NO TESTING within 30 Days of the fight....because thats when the PED's will be in his veins.

Conte Weighs In
By Steve Kim, MaxBoxing (Dec 25, 2009)

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Say what you want about him, but Victor Conte- the man who chemically masterminded the success of various world-class athletes while running BALCO- has a unique perspective on this debate surrounding the 'Olympic-style' drug testing that the camp of Floyd Mayweather is insisting on prior to them facing Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao and his camp, are balking at the insistence of drawing blood and the number of times they would be subjected to do so.

Conte believes that blood testing is vital in this instance. But not for the reason everyone thinks.

He emailed Maxboxing,:'In my opinion, blood testing for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is more important for detecting possible blood doping or use of EPO than it is for human growth hormone. Measuring hematocrit levels (percentage of red blood cells to total whole blood volume) is very important. For example, even without a positive urine test for EPO, cyclists are temporarily suspended for two weeks if their hematocrit is greater than 50%. An elevated hematocrit can provide a significant advantage to a fighter by enhancing oxygen uptake and utilization. This would benefit a fighter in training and especially during the later rounds of a fight."

Some observers have been su****ious of Pacquiao's recent dominance as he has moved up in weight. 'the Pac Man', who won his first world title as a flyweight( 112-pounds), has knocked out the trio of Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and, most recently, Miguel Cotto, in succession. Leading some to believe that he is 'juicing'- meaning he is on a form of steroids or HGH( human growth hormone). But Conte believes that a blood test must be adminstered for the reason stated up above in his email.

"One, I think that increasing hematocrit levels, whether it's by traditional blood-doping or the use of EPO, is of greater benefit to a boxer than the use of growth-hormone," he explained."So growth-hormone is more of an anti-catobolic agent that may help to accelerate the healing of the tissue repair process. But growth-hormone is not anabolic as an anabolic steroid. It's an anti-catabolic agent and I believe that you don't get a very big **** for your buck. I'm not a huge fan of growth-hormone. I don't think it's tremendously beneficial performance enhancing substance.

"EPO, though, in terms of boxing, is absolutely huge, both in training and as well as in a fight, especially during the later rounds."

Conte does have experience in boxing, having worked with Andre Ward and Eddie Chambers, recently, and back in 2003, during the heyday of BALCO, assisted with Shane Mosley in his usage of illegal P.E.D's in his rematch with Oscar De La Hoya. When asked if Mosley was on EPO for that fight, Conte answered,"Yes, he was."

Another factor that is essential is that the tests need to be random in nature.

"Otherwise," he explains,"it's what they call 'announced testing' and I've historically called that 'I.Q. testing'. So to apply that to other sports, it would be like showing up to training camp for Major League Baseball and they test you. That's announced testing. You have to be pretty dumb to show up at training camp or at 'announced testing' and test positive. The clearance time of most of these drugs that are out there are well known."

He also says that for these substances to be utilized at their maximum efficiency, they must be properly cycled and be out of your system by the time competition begins.

"Creams, transdurmals, clear the fastest. Orals, would be next. Water-based drugs- including testosterone- would be next, then the oil-based. So some of these can clear in a matter of hours and days," explained Conte."So if you know when you're going to be tested a week out, you go off the use of oral testosterone, for example, you're going to test negative. So that is really an issue."

Accoring to him,"Traditional testing in boxing, it's basically worthless other than the detection of some types of stimulant, before and after a fight."

The Mayweather camp and Golden Boy Promotions, has insisted- against Bob Arum's wishes- on employing USADA( the United States Anti-Doping Agency) and their methods to monitor both boxers leading into the fight( which is now in serious jeopardy). But USADA's testing is hardly foolproof, as two of Conte's most famous clients, Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery, avoided detection for years from this organization.

"There's lots of loopholes. They call that the 'gold standard testing'. I've said this as far back as 2004, that there are huge loopholes that you can drive an equivelant of a Mack Truck through. the USADA testing is certainly better than what is used in professional sports but it's still relatively easy to beat the test," states Conte, who was also noted for working with baseball slugger Barry Bonds, during his assault on the record book." Now, I don't know in the case of this fight, but the reason is because you're allowed two missed tests and they can't come back the next day because you have to be allowed a hearing to provide your reasonable explanation or the 'exceptional circumstance' as they call it. So they'll just come back the next day and of course none of this is transparent. It's like being up to hit in baseball where you get two strikes and then you smack it out of the park and hit a home run. So it's still relatively easy to beat USADA testing and in this particular case, I do believe you need to have random, unannounced testing. To just say,'I'll be tested on this date', there's all sorts of things you can do with announced testing, you can't do with unannounced testing."

[TopContender]

there's unlimited piss tests and a blood test after the fight...
that exceeds all standards

If he's taking a piss test, they might as well just do this:

Tester: "Hey Manny, you juicing?"
Manny: "No, sir."
Tester: "Alright, just checking."

Because both are equally effective at detecting HGH and other designer PEDs.