Mayweather's Scandalous Actions Backfire on Themselves

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  • Foodie One
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    #51
    Originally posted by thatnickuh
    Do you work for Pacquiao or something? You're coming off as being extremely bias, and you sound like you are completely oblivious.

    This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.

    Reported by Tim Smith of the NY Daily News.

    The way that Pacquiao and his team have handled this situation is embarrassing. His name and reputation are taking a beating in the court of public opinion, and if he decides to walk away from Mayweather to fight Malignaggi or someone else it'll only get worse. The lawsuit he filed seems like a desperate attempt to distract the public. He doesn't have a case and filing this lawsuit just makes him look even more su****ious. He would rather file frivolous lawsuits than man up, take the tests, and make this fight happen.

    How can any true boxing fan excuse what Pacquiao is doing? Pacquiao has done more to smear his own name with his actions than team Mayweather could ever do. Nobody really took SR. seriously when he said that he believed that Pacquiao is dirty. It's pacquiao's reaction to the blood testing request that makes him look like he's hiding something.
    Hahahaha... You're not keeping up with current updated news regarding the "Smear Campaign" against Pacquiao. First of all, what you've stated above was officially dismissed as a fabrication by Bob Arum and is being condemned as another hideous cheapshot perpetrated against Pacquiao. Secondly, you're playing into speculation and innuedo that is unproven and highly suspected to be an underhanded plot to discredit Pacquiao as a legitimate Champion of this sport.

    You've convicted Pacquiao to be guilty of steroid use on the grounds of his "reactions" to blood testing? How foolish is that? It's very ****** of you to come to the conclusion of guilt when you have absolutely "NO" concrete proof of steroid use by Manny. It seems to me that you are another one of these "duped" individuals who are completely clueless in these proceedings. Don't take this personally but your argument lacks credibility and can't be taken seriously. Sorry. JAT

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    • aether
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      #52
      ive changed my mind on the issue. at first, i thought taking the test would make all this go away. unfortunately, it seems that even if manny takes the tests, him being clean is still gonna be questioned. no one has proven that the NSAC testing methods are insufficient. manny was willing to take tests far stricter than anyone has ever been required too. apparently, that's not enough. arum and the rest of team pacquiao could have certainly handled the situation better, but it does not take away the fact that all this started from baseless accusations. i hope he sues the hypocrites for all their worth, and make them beg to fight him. there isn't one thing he has done to deserve all this crap. they were trying to tarnish another man's legacy cause of their jealousy from the start. and i feel sorry for those who can't see it.

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      • djtmal
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        #53
        Originally posted by shabs
        dude i really dont understand ur point how is being randomly drug tested WITH A CUTOFF DATE forsure cuz manny is that much of a diva bad who cares if theres no proof there aint no proof of floyd using yet hell be taking them same tests to that makes the casual fan say u kno wut this guy might have a big mouth but at least he aint no cheater and well the casual fan will when it comes down to realize that pac didnt want random drug tests the world isnt ignorant like pac fans who thinks its wrong they see threw it and manny didnt want random drug tests plain and simple i just really think manny dont want to fight cuz he dont wanna lose i kno may wants the fight thats y hes agreed to everything but like always pac is a diva aint nothing wrong with tests that prove both fighters are SQUEAKY CLEAN no other fighter in the world would turn down 30 + mill because of random drug tests if they were clean sorry dude reply i want to kno ur real view remember both guys are gunna be tested and to just make sure there both clean reply
        my point is, floyd saw how manny kicked cotto's a**, and is looking for a good excuse to get out...

        now first off, what gives the mayweathers the right to dictate to any fighter or sanctioning body what pre or post drug testing is used in sanctioned boxing matches, whether they agree to the same testing or not...and why now?...

        they've been using the same standardized tests for years and if the people who run it felt the tests needed to be upgraded, they damn sure didn't need the mayweathers, with their well documented history of illegal drug dealing and consumption, involved...that would stink up boxing for real...if the ex-con mayweathers got that off it would be a monumental turn for the worse for boxing imo....especially since floyd himself ducked the hard questions surrounding not agreeing to the 145 lb. catchweight agreement in the marquez fight and came in looking like a junior middleweight, while marquez looked and fought like a blown up flyweight...

        now regarding manny pac refusing testing....anyone, and that means the casual as well as the hardcore boxing fan, who can't see that manny pac is standing on the principle that he never faced any illegal substance accusations, until the ex-drug dealer floyd mayweather sr. opened his mouth, and is not at fault here until a sanctioned test finds him at fault, is as delusional as the mayweathers...pac is already mega rich, and isn't spending up all his dough on ferraris, bulletproof hummers, ***elry, and strip hos like floyd is, so right now he can afford to pass up 30 mil to make a point....

        ok you asked for my real view, there it is....

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        • thatnickuh
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          #54
          Originally posted by aether
          ive changed my mind on the issue. at first, i thought taking the test would make all this go away. unfortunately, it seems that even if manny takes the tests, him being clean is still gonna be questioned. no one has proven that the NSAC testing methods are insufficient. manny was willing to take tests far stricter than anyone has ever been required too. apparently, that's not enough. arum and the rest of team pacquiao could have certainly handled the situation better, but it does not take away the fact that all this started from baseless accusations. i hope he sues the hypocrites for all their worth, and make them beg to fight him. there isn't one thing he has done to deserve all this crap. they were trying to tarnish another man's legacy cause of their jealousy from the start. and i feel sorry for those who can't see it.
          You're not making any sense either. There's no reason that you or anybody else should feel sorry for Pacquiao. Whatever Pacquiao has gone through or will go through as far as damage to his reputation, is self inflicted. Had he not put up such a fight regarding random blood testing, issuing those ridiculous excuses and whatnot, then none of this would be an issue. The whole blood testing thing is only an issue because Pacquiao refuses to comply. You talking about how him taking the tests would not be enough and all of that, just shows your bias. Why do you believe that anyone would doubt him if he agreed to be randomly tested? Sounds like that's just something you have convinced yourself to believe in order to justify your "poor Pacquiao" stance.

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          • Foodie One
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            #55
            Originally posted by shabs
            respect and honor?????? lol if that was the case manny would be taking the tests with a cut off date cuz u kno thats the only way it will go down but manny wont even agree to that ..that is totally dishonorable for a fighter of his caliber to refuse random drug testing that what is comes down to not taking blood 1 or 2 days b4 the fight cuz that aint gunna happen and aint close to bieng offered manny is offering 30 days with no random plain and simple so stop with the whole he will be weak so could dropping down to cathweight make a fighter but those were just excuses when those guys were fighting pac no its fine and dandy when manny make the same excuse c'mon man fact is he doesnt want random drug tests and thats bull ****
            Hahaha... you're ranting over nothing. The Pacman had been tested over and over again, fight after fight with the same results: "CLEAN"

            Now guys like you are jumping onto the "Sinking Ship" of Team Mayweather for what? You are on a "Witch hunt" just like every other Pacquiao hater out here. You can't be taken seriously because you're basing your argument without any corroborating facts. Sorry. JAT

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            • aether
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              #56
              Originally posted by thatnickuh
              You're not making any sense either. There's no reason that you or anybody else should feel sorry for Pacquiao. Whatever Pacquiao has gone through or will go through as far as damage to his reputation, is self inflicted. Had he not put up such a fight regarding random blood testing, issuing those ridiculous excuses and whatnot, then none of this would be an issue. The whole blood testing thing is only an issue because Pacquiao refuses to comply. You talking about how him taking the tests would not be enough and all of that, just shows your bias. Why do you believe that anyone would doubt him if he agreed to be randomly tested? Sounds like that's just something you have convinced yourself to believe in order to justify your "poor Pacquiao" stance.
              false. this would have never been an issue if floyd's camp didn't ask for the unheard of testing. they would never have asked for olympic style testing if not for floyd sr.'s baseless accusations. you are a fool if you think manny has to comply to tests imposed by mayweather's team just to prove he isn't guilty. he thinks the blood tests affect him for some ****** reason, so the fuck what? he isn't required to take it. nobody in boxing ever was. he has every right to reject the tests.

              again, it has not been proven that NSAC's testing methods are insufficient. you have been fooled by a crackhead. and i feel sorry for you.

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              • Lead Cenobite
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                #57
                Originally posted by Lady Fan
                Believe me, he's crying or will be. If this fight between him and Pacquiao never is to materialize, it will be a major financial and emotional loss for him. He'll have no more "Big Money" paydays due to poor viewership and interest in all his future fights. Couple that with the ongoing media and public bashing he receives along with the loss of fan support; poor 'Lil Floyd is done. Sad indeed. JAT

                so you are a mind reading?

                Prove he's getting bashed in the AMerican media? Everyone is bashing Pac. You are insane. Proof please. Not your delusional

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                • Bigchill79
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                  #58
                  Nobody outside Philippines and crazed tards feels sorry for him. It's his fault people think he is a fraud and a cheat.

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                  • Foodie One
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Lead Cenobite
                    so you are a mind reading?

                    Prove he's getting bashed in the AMerican media? Everyone is bashing Pac. You are insane. Proof please. Not your delusional
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                    • thatnickuh
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by aether
                      false. this would have never been an issue if floyd's camp didn't ask for the unheard of testing. they would never have asked for olympic style testing if not for floyd sr.'s baseless accusations. you are a fool if you think manny has to comply to tests imposed by mayweather's team just to prove he isn't guilty. he thinks the blood tests affect him for some ****** reason, so the fuck what? he isn't required to take it. nobody in boxing ever was. he has every right to reject the tests.

                      again, it has not been proven that NSAC's testing methods are insufficient. you have been fooled by a crackhead. and i feel sorry for you.
                      Mayweather's team did ask for the testing though, and it's well within their rights. The same way that Pacquiao's team asking for a clause that would penalize Mayweather 10 million dollars for every pound over 147lbs was well within their rights. I had never heard of that, but Pacquiao's team requested it and Mayweather agreed to it. Give and take are what negotiations are all about. If Mayweather had walked away from this fight because of that unprecendented request, he'd deserve the blame that Pacquiao is getting now.

                      You may feel that the fear of Pacquiao being dirty is baseless, but obviously team Mayweather doesn't feel that way. If they are fearful of Pacquiao being dirty for whatever reason, then why fault them for asking for more stringent testing? Especially when both fighters would be subjected to the same testing?

                      This isn't about rights, or Mayweather forcing Pacquiao to do something. Pacquiao doesn't HAVE to do anything that he doesn't want to do. He doesn't have to fight Mayweather. This is about WHY? Why would Pacquiao would walk away from the biggest fight that he could make just because of random blood testing? If he's clean like he says, then whay is that a deal-breaker? Those are the questions that logical people are asking themselves. You're a fool if you haven't asked yourself that question. You're doing the name calling thing and all that, and again that shows where you're really coming from. No need to feel sorry for me, I'm not fooled by anybody nor am I on anybody's side. I don't know if OPacquiao is dirty or not, I just know that his reaction to all of this is quite su****ious.

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