i hope you know there are timed performance enhancers that dissapear in a few hours

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  • Equinox
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    #1

    i hope you know there are timed performance enhancers that dissapear in a few hours

    no trace is left behind if you time it correctly.

    BUT, you have to have a set schedule to time it around, a random schedule would not work out too well.
  • Marduke
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    I'm sure Manny is MORE than willing to give a piss test in the locker room before he walks out into the ring.

    The call for a blood test was ONLY because HGH can't be caught in urinalysis.

    Taking random blood/piss tests throughout training, piss test before the fight, and blood/piss immediately after the fight is MORE than enough to ensure he's not on anything. AND he's agreed to all that, but people still have to hate.

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    • cixthree
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      #3
      Originally posted by Marduke
      I'm sure Manny is MORE than willing to give a piss test in the locker room before he walks out into the ring.

      The call for a blood test was ONLY because HGH can't be caught in urinalysis.

      Taking random blood/piss tests throughout training, piss test before the fight, and blood/piss immediately after the fight is MORE than enough to ensure he's not on anything. AND he's agreed to all that, but people still have to hate.
      just for a second, turn the tables on this. Say Manny wanted Floyd to take olympic tests, Mayweather refuses. Floyd wants to alter the random tests, he wants a 30 day window to not be subjected to tests. His reasoning is what Mannys are. What do u think the backlash would be? Would u think that would be ok? If it were Floyd would u support him adjusting and dictating a tests that is sure to prevent foul play?
      I think you'd scream cheater! I think you'd demand he take the tests as its set up, no altering and no windows. I think if Floyd refused random testing pac fans wouldn't be so understanding. Its really a shame, the sport needed this fight. Both fighters could have shown the world how clean the top dogs were. Set a new standard for sports. So if it were Floyd refusing randoms, how would u react?

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      • Haterfree
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        #4
        Originally posted by cixthree
        just for a second, turn the tables on this. Say Manny wanted Floyd to take olympic tests, Mayweather refuses. Floyd wants to alter the random tests, he wants a 30 day window to not be subjected to tests. His reasoning is what Mannys are. What do u think the backlash would be? Would u think that would be ok? If it were Floyd would u support him adjusting and dictating a tests that is sure to prevent foul play?
        I think you'd scream cheater! I think you'd demand he take the tests as its set up, no altering and no windows. I think if Floyd refused random testing pac fans wouldn't be so understanding. Its really a shame, the sport needed this fight. Both fighters could have shown the world how clean the top dogs were. Set a new standard for sports. So if it were Floyd refusing randoms, how would u react?
        These haters would start a lobby to strip Floyd of all his titles & even his olympic medal.

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        • Marduke
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          #5
          Originally posted by cixthree
          I think you'd scream cheater!
          Hell no I wouldn't. I have a lot more honor than that.

          Innocent until proven guilty.

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          • The Great Shark
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            #6
            What kind of drugs are we talking about here? Man if thats true, that's crazy....

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            • gopi11
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              #7
              Originally posted by Equinox
              no trace is left behind if you time it correctly.

              BUT, you have to have a set schedule to time it around, a random schedule would not work out too well.


              Let's just say I will buy what you're selling, a few hours. A 12 round fight will last 47 minutes. If Pacman emerged victorious, the ref can raise his right hand while somebody's taking blood samples on his left arm at the same time, that's an hour window. Why can't Floyd's camp agree with that?

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              • cixthree
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                #8
                Originally posted by Marduke
                Hell no I wouldn't. I have a lot more honor than that.

                Innocent until proven guilty.
                yea right, not doubting this honor thing everybody keeps parroting but. Imo I feel things would be totally dif if it were Floyd. If u didn't outright scream cheater ud
                at least wonder. I don't think ud totally dismiss it as ur doing for Pac. Reasons for Pac would sound excuses from Floyd. You speak of honor, honesty is a part of honor. So be honest.

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                • Ravishing
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Equinox
                  no trace is left behind if you time it correctly.

                  BUT, you have to have a set schedule to time it around, a random schedule would not work out too well.
                  Of course...that's why the entire sport of Boxing is using PED. Didn't you get the memo???

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                  • Go Blue
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheGreatShark
                    What kind of drugs are we talking about here? Man if thats true, that's crazy....
                    Heres his take on the Pac-Floyd situation:

                    "Traditional testing in boxing, it's basically worthless other than the detection of some types of stimulant, before and after a fight."

                    "Creams, transdurmals, clear the fastest. Orals, would be next. Water-based drugs- including testosterone- would be next, then the oil-based. So some of these can clear in a matter of hours and days," explained Conte."So if you know when you're going to be tested a week out, you go off the use of oral testosterone, for example, you're going to test negative. So that is really an issue."

                    Pac wants a 48 Hour window of no tests.....HELL NO....Thats plenty of time to clean his system according to Conte.

                    A tea or tablespoon of blood would have ZERO eefect on him fight

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