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  • aether
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    #21
    Originally posted by Spacey1991
    I am not accusing Manny of taking them, but doing the random blood tests proves it once and for all... he would be able to shut those people up finally. If Manny has nothing to hide he would take the tests, period.

    Manny seems to be getting pissed off mate, if they fight and Manny fights with that much anger it might make him complacent, we all know how good Floyd is at picking apart careless fighters who are being clumsy.

    Goes both ways to be fair mate.
    its true that taking the tests would probably shut up most of those who accuse him, and i definitely wouldn't mind that.

    but you gotta understand their perspective. lets say, for the sake of argument, Manny is absolutely 100% clean (yup.. totally silly. but humor me.) Being subjected to tests never done before by an organization of his opponents choosing may be perceived as an insult. there is absolutely no reason why he should be put under a microscope, where no evidence has come out of him being anything but clean. he was put in a position where he was already guilty and has to be proven innocent.

    manny agreed to tests far stricter than any boxer has ever had to endure. is it so hard to believe that him not wanting blood too close to the fight is maybe because he truly believes it would affect his performance? its either that, or there is a new drug that you take 24hours before the fight, makes you invincible, and then suddenly becomes undetectable.

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    • Spacey1991
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      blood on the day before the fight? the middle of the night before the biggest fight of his career, the biggest fight ever? come on, why should any elite fighter with no history of drug abuse have to put up with that?

      On your other point, I actually think Mayweather has a good chance of winning and as good as I think Pac is, Mayweather's style seems made for him.

      I wonder if May believes he can win without the test however, he's so adamant about the test that if Pac doesn't get it May won't fight.
      Who's to say the tests will be taken on the night of the fight, they are RANDOM blood tests, meaning when he doesn't expect it so there is no way to get around them. So yeah if he has nothing to hide he should take them. And Floyd will be having the exact same tests, so he will be put at the same "dissadvantage", we are talking one injection of blood here not a pint full. He loses more blood in sparring/training most likely.

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        #23
        Originally posted by aether
        its true that taking the tests would probably shut up most of those who accuse him, and i definitely wouldn't mind that.

        but you gotta understand their perspective. lets say, for the sake of argument, Manny is absolutely 100% clean (yup.. totally silly. but humor me.) Being subjected to tests never done before by an organization of his opponents choosing may be perceived as an insult. there is absolutely no reason why he should be put under a microscope, where no evidence has come out of him being anything but clean. he was put in a position where he was already guilty and has to be proven innocent.

        manny agreed to tests far stricter than any boxer has ever had to endure. is it so hard to believe that him not wanting blood too close to the fight is maybe because he truly believes it would affect his performance? its either that, or there is a new drug that you take 24hours before the fight, makes you invincible, and then suddenly becomes undetectable.
        Your acting like Manny is the only person taking the tests, Floyd would be taking them too. You gotta realise that Manny does kinda have a point to prove, more and more people are accusing him saying something odds going on. He will prove them wrong by doing this and coming out clean.

        Floyd will be having the exact same thing, so he will be put at the same dissadvantage mate, were talking one injection of blood here not a whole pint.

        Plus doing this could make Boxing better, whether Manny passes it or not more people could use it which means there would be less people in the sport using steroids who may be able to get away with it. It would help clean the sport up.

        I think its an excellent idea to be honest.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Spacey1991
          Your acting like Manny is the only person taking the tests, Floyd would be taking them too. You gotta realise that Manny does kinda have a point to prove, more and more people are accusing him saying something odds going on. He will prove them wrong by doing this and coming out clean.

          Floyd will be having the exact same thing, so he will be put at the same dissadvantage mate, were talking one injection of blood here not a whole pint.

          Plus doing this could make Boxing better, whether Manny passes it or not more people could use it which means there would be less people in the sport using steroids who may be able to get away with it. It would help clean the sport up.

          I think its an excellent idea to be honest.
          i am aware that the tests would be done to both sides. as ive said, manny taking the tests in the way floyd wants would make this all go away.

          but him "rejecting the tests" is not accurate. manny did not reject the tests at all. he is willing to do it, he just prefers to not have any blood drawn too close on the fight. i don't think the blood test would affect him physically, but it seems he does cause when blood was drawn from him in the morales fight, he lost.

          i find it perfectly reasonable why his camp would question stipulations imposed by the other side which has not been done before ever.

          don't get me wrong, im all for cleaning up the sport, and i would like to find out if somebody has been cheating even though it is one of my favorite fighters.

          his compromise is fair if you ask me. no blood 5 days before the fight (what roach said) or no blood on the day itself (what manny said) plus one blood test immediately after the fight, is pretty fair, considering there is no reason to think that he is anything but clean. such tests are gonna be stricter than any boxer had to undergo. floyd is gonna do it too.

          floyd sr. and gbp's statements on the issue are damaging to his name. he was put in a position where he was guilty and have to be proven innocent.
          Last edited by aether; 12-25-2009, 11:50 PM.

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            #25
            a lot of people seem to not know manny's position on the issue. they just blurt out ****** **** like "He doesn't want the tests! he is a cheater!"

            he was willing to do the random tests, the blood tests, the urine tests to be performed by usada. he just doesn't want blood be taken too close to the fight. say its unreasonable, or won't affect him physically, but that's what he believes. also, there would be a blood test IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIGHT. i honestly don't see what's wrong with it. unless you want to test him between rounds.

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              #26
              Originally posted by lead_right
              "Manny has no idea what he takes"

              ----Ariza

              Weebler your thoughts please.
              Ariza also said before the statement he said above that he only gives Manny legal stuff.

              So if you add the two Ariza is basically saying Pacquiao is only taking legal stuff, which he has no idea about.

              So what's your thoughts about that?

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                #27
                Originally posted by MANIAKO
                i can tell you one thing pac knocked out hatton earlier than mayweather did....
                i can tell you Another thing, Mayweather beat Marquez with ease and domination...

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