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  • horge
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    #61
    Originally posted by El Jesus
    Yo horge, i sent you a PM.
    Yes, thanks.
    We can agree on the bottom lines, then?

    1. Arum's 30-day stipulation is the dog's dangly bits. Utter nonsense.
    2. Manny is uncomfortable, but willing to give blood 24 hours prefight.
    3. Manny HAS overridden Arum's say before (OdlH purse cut)


    USADA is known for strictness in interpreting bloodwork, etc., Not many on this forum are aware that the many of the "illegal" traces being searched for and measured via bloodwork occur naturally in the human body: the trick is distinguishing between normal and abnormal levels.

    If the threshold for a positive is too low/strict, false positives are more likely, and this is exactly the contention in several lawsuits over WSADA positive fondings. Arum probably heard that USADA was trigger-happy, and balked at having them do the blood... but again, Manny has final say:

    4. Neither Manny nor Roach objected to USADA doing the gig.

    Despite his unease, Manny has indicated he'll not object to blood being taken a minimum 24 hrs prior to, and mere moments after, the fight.

    Yet, this fight has been apparently been called off.
    Why?

    h.

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    • El Jesus
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      #62
      Originally posted by horge
      Yes, thanks.
      We can agree on the bottom lines, then?

      1. Arum's 30-day stipulation is the dog's dangly bits. Utter nonsense.
      2. Manny is uncomfortable, but willing to give blood 24 hours prefight.
      3. Manny HAS overridden Arum's say before (OdlH purse cut)


      USADA is known for strictness in interpreting bloodwork, etc., Not many on this forum are aware that the many of the "illegal" traces being searched for and measured via bloodwork occur naturally in the human body: the trick is distinguishing between normal and abnormal levels.

      If the threshold for a positive is too low/strict, false positives are more likely, and this is exactly the contention in several lawsuits over WSADA positive fondings. Arum probably heard that USADA was trigger-happy, and balked at having them do the blood... but again, Manny has final say:

      4. Neither Manny nor Roach objected to USADA doing the gig.

      Despite his unease, Manny has indicated he'll not object to blood being taken a minimum 24 hrs prior to, and mere moments after, the fight.

      Yet, this fight has been apparently been called off.
      Why?

      h.

      I dont know why the fight has been called off and truthfully, only bob arum knows that answer.

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      • BrushMyCage
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        #63
        horge for mayor of manila!

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        • MANIAKO
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          #64
          war pac!!!!!!!

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          • horge
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            #65
            Originally posted by El Jesus
            I dont know why the fight has been called off and truthfully, only bob arum knows that answer.
            Hahaha....
            I think it's pretty clear that Bob now doesn't want this fight.

            It's been insinuated on BS that Team Floyd don't want the fight either,
            but their allegedly fight-scuttling behavior at the negotiating table (as
            alluded to by --surprise!!!-- Bob Arum himself) might simply be a case
            of *******s being *******s.

            It's a pity the fight's looking cancelled.... or not.
            I've always preferred that Pac shoot for legacy by beating Shane/Berto,
            and unifying welter (or taking Foreman's belt) before retiring. I'm sure
            he'll do the bloodtests for those fights, lol...

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            • El Jesus
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              #66
              Originally posted by horge
              Hahaha....
              I think it's pretty clear that Bob now doesn't want this fight.

              It's been insinuated on BS that Team Floyd don't want the fight either,
              but their allegedly fight-scuttling behavior at the negotiating table (as
              alluded to by --surprise!!!-- Bob Arum himself) might simply be a case
              of *******s being *******s.

              It's a pity the fight's looking cancelled.... or not.
              I've always preferred that Pac shoot for legacy by beating Shane/Berto,
              and unifying welter (or taking Foreman's belt) before retiring. I'm sure
              he'll do the bloodtests for those fights, lol...
              When you cut out all of the BS blogs and the posts on here, Goldenboy and Mayweather still seem to be somewhat open to a compromise, nobhody but bob is ready to throw this thing away. The only person truely at fault is bob arum with these pathetic excuses and feminine reasoning behind not making this happen.

              Also, Pac isnt going to get that shot at mosley if he wins, you think after all this theyll try to work with pac again, when they could keep the money in house by having mayweather get the shot?

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #67
                Originally posted by El Jesus
                When you cut out all of the BS blogs and the posts on here, Goldenboy and Mayweather still seem to be somewhat open to a compromise, nobhody but bob is ready to throw this thing away. The only person truely at fault is bob arum with these pathetic excuses and feminine reasoning behind not making this happen.

                Also, Pac isnt going to get that shot at mosley if he wins, you think after all this theyll try to work with pac again, when they could keep the money in house by having mayweather get the shot?
                They could sign Mosley. Mosley said he'd be willing to do it, only if he can face Pacquiao.

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                • horge
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  They could sign Mosley. Mosley said he'd be willing to do it, only if he can face Pacquiao.
                  ^^^
                  This.
                  ... may be the only way Blob Arum lets Pac fight Mosley.

                  Remember, Pac was all hot for a gig w/ Shane, before Arum went
                  and rerouted matters towards Cotto in November.

                  Keeping things in-house makes $$$ sense, but can Arum's anger
                  towards the Mayweathers have gotten so intense that he'd piss
                  away the much greater $$$$$$ of a Pac-Floyd match?

                  Neither Roach nor Pac are objecting to USADA's random tests.
                  So what the fuck is Blob's problem?

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by horge
                    ^^^
                    This.
                    ... may be the only way Blob Arum lets Pac fight Mosley.

                    Remember, Pac was all hot for a gig w/ Shane, before Arum went
                    and rerouted matters towards Cotto in November.

                    Keeping things in-house makes $$$ sense, but can Arum's anger
                    towards the Mayweathers have gotten so intense that he'd piss
                    away the much greater $$$$$$ of a Pac-Floyd match?

                    Neither Roach nor Pac are objecting to USADA's random tests.
                    So what the fuck is Blob's problem?
                    In my opinion, a fight of this magnitude needs more promotional time. I knew from the start that it wasn't gonna go down in March and I still stand by that. It's like I got caught in this ****** hype and unknowlying started lying to myself. I always knew it wasn't gonna go down in March.

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                    • xcaret v2
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                      #70
                      Lets just wait and see what happens

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