I Am a Lawyer and Pac Has No Case

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  • Dr. Ironfist
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    I Am a Lawyer and Pac Has No Case

    The elements required in a defamation case concerning a public figure are as followed. 1. The statements made must be false. The burden of proof is put entirely on the defense to prove. Can someone tell me what Floyd or anyone related to him have said that has been false? 2. The statements made must be made with malice aforethought. Which means that not only do they have to be false, but the person making the statements must know that they are false and foresee the damage they would cause. In the case of a newspaper publication recklessness will satisfy the requirement, but in terms of one person recklessness has never satisfied this requirement. There is no case because nothing anyone has said can be proven to have been made with malice aforethought. If you are a lawyer and would like to debate any of this go ahead, but Pac fans who are from the Phillipines need to stop acting like they know anything about the law. I have seen people saying that Floyd will go to jail for his comments? Really? Theres criminal defamation of character? This isnt Russia people. This is the united states and our laws are as followed. People threaten suits all the time, however, this case would be dismissed on the first motion. Also, if Pac did proceed, PBF should make a motion to dismiss challenging the first element and hope Pac underwent all the tests to try to prove he wasnt and then after he gets poked with all those needles file a motion to dismiss claiming the second element is not present and get the case dismissed.
    Last edited by Dr. Ironfist; 12-25-2009, 04:34 PM.
  • toyi
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    #2
    Originally posted by Dr. Ironfist
    The elements required in a defamation case concerning a public figure are as followed. 1. The statements made must be false. The burden of proof is put entirely on the defense to prove. Can someone tell me what Floyd or anyone related to him have said that has been false? 2. The statements made must be made with malice aforethought. Which means that not only do they have to be false, but the person making the statements must know that they are false and foresee the damage they would cause. In the case of a newspaper publication recklessness will satisfy the requirement, but in terms of one person recklessness has never satisfied this requirement. There is no case because nothing anyone has said can be proven to have been made with malice aforethought. If you are a lawyer and would like to debate any of this go ahead, but Pac fans who are from the Phillipines need to stop acting like they know anything about the law. I have seen people saying that Floyd will go to jail for his comments? Really? Theres criminal defamation of character? This isnt Russia people. This is the united states and are laws are as followed. People threaten suits all the time, however, this case would be dismissed on the first motion. Also, if Pac did proceed, PBF should make a motion to dismiss challenging the first element and hope Pac underwent all the tests to try to prove he wasnt and then after he gets poked with all those needles file a motion to dismiss claiming the second element is not present and get the case dismissed.


    Dr. Lawyer

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    • DontHitMyNuts
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      #3
      now the internet lawyers have showed up

      you dont even speak nor type like a lawyer bro



      thanks for the comedy

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      • The Hammer
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        #4


        The threadstarter is neither a lawyer nor a Vitali fan.

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        • Story
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          #5
          I wonder whose ALT this is.

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          • peyk-peyk
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            #6
            Originally posted by Dr. Ironfist
            The elements required in a defamation case concerning a public figure are as followed. 1. The statements made must be false. The burden of proof is put entirely on the defense to prove. Can someone tell me what Floyd or anyone related to him have said that has been false? 2. The statements made must be made with malice aforethought. Which means that not only do they have to be false, but the person making the statements must know that they are false and foresee the damage they would cause. In the case of a newspaper publication recklessness will satisfy the requirement, but in terms of one person recklessness has never satisfied this requirement. There is no case because nothing anyone has said can be proven to have been made with malice aforethought. If you are a lawyer and would like to debate any of this go ahead, but Pac fans who are from the Phillipines need to stop acting like they know anything about the law. I have seen people saying that Floyd will go to jail for his comments? Really? Theres criminal defamation of character? This isnt Russia people. This is the united states and our laws are as followed. People threaten suits all the time, however, this case would be dismissed on the first motion. Also, if Pac did proceed, PBF should make a motion to dismiss challenging the first element and hope Pac underwent all the tests to try to prove he wasnt and then after he gets poked with all those needles file a motion to dismiss claiming the second element is not present and get the case dismissed.


            I wish the Gayweather hires you as their lawyer.

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            • BrooklynBomber
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              #7
              Well, actually he has a point.
              The only real argument is this though.

              "The burden of proof is put entirely on the defense to prove. Can someone tell me what Floyd or anyone related to him have said that has been false? "

              Although if Pac was to threaten the case most of the burden would be on him, I think.

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              • Maidana vs Rios
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                #8
                No lawyer has such pitiful grammar.

                All lawyers have also heard of this brand new cutting edge concept called "paragraphs." :laugh:

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                • KESSLER
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                  #9
                  "I am lawyer" I've heard it all now.

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                  • PensionKiller
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                    #10
                    I am not a lawyer but a member of public and if they ever put me in the jury, I'll have sex with the rest, pay good money and buy diamonds to the ladies just to put Flopyd senior into jail for 4 years minimum.

                    I'm not a Pac fan BTW

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