Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Viewed as Hypocrites in Pacquiao Test Fiasco

[Maidana vs Rios]

No response from Golden Boy (Floyd's boss) yet? Not even a "no commment"? Anything?

[RumirNemo]

Golden Boy Viewed as Hypocrites in Pacquiao Test Fiasco

I indeed do agree with the article, and I do think that indeed Oscar dela Hoya is a Hypocrite. As the usual court cases, the judge would usually ask on "what will be the motives?" Your Honor, the motives of Oscar dela Hoya is because he still has the venom for vengeance against Manny Pacquiao for the reason that he was humiliated by Pacquiao in their December, 2008 bout.

[jetgeomcx]

Some info on HGH (from online medical sources): HGH taken alone is actually ineffective in enhancing performance. What the studies show is that HGH can only be effective when it is taken in conjunction with anabolic steroids (i.e. steriods can be detected by urine testing). This means that in order to get the maximum effect an athlete must take both at the same time. The trouble with this fact is that as mentioned earlier anabolic steroids can easily be detected, and with a simple urine test you can already get caught. The information campaign could also lay some emphasis on the possible risks and side effects that can result from too much intake of HGH. Some of these are acromelagy, which in layman's terms is gigantism, increased risk of diabetes, swelling of joints, edema, being more prone to different types of cancer and many others. If this can be done then it would probably dissuade athletes from even thinking about taking HGH.

Bottom line: Some boxing writers right now (not mentioning Colin here) are trying to say a "one way street" on HGH, however, if you look at the medical facts . . its not "conclusive" and likely much is to be learned and studied about these drugs. However, No amount of drugs will (1) improve your skills and strategy in the ring e.g. if this drug made everybody smarter or gave them a new fountain of skills, everybody will be using it!; (2) the idea of bulking up, c'mon - PacMan is known and recognize for his "speed", not his bulk body or armor muscles. If you ask me, bulking up, would actually sacrifice your speed . . so isn't this an anti-thesis of the Pacquiao fast machine; (3) in this high stakes negotiation where each side attempts to get the better deal i.e. Mayweather's request was answered "half-way" by Pacquiao - 3 blood tests (after fight announcement, before 30 days and just after the fight), these blood tests are not required for professional/competitive boxing in Nevada (Las Vegas), but Pacquiao offered this. The test just after the fight, should provide conclusive and reliable evidence that meet Olympic standards if Pac took anything! (these drugs stay in the body at least a week, depending of quantity taken); (4) Let's take a look at the messenger of this "unsubstantiated allegations" - Mayweathers camp - goodness! these guys are not the bastion of honesty and purity, heck, they could produce a reality series with their numerous court cases, run-ins with the law, tax problems, what have you.

We don't know whether this fight will push through or not . . However, the ascent of Manny to the top of the boxing world was duly documented in 24/7/media outlets/stories that show: (a) Manny took long hours in the gym, working on a strategy, improving his right hand to be as good as the left hand i.e. if this guy was really on super-performance drugs - why waste too many hours in the gym when you have super strength? why improve your right hand, when with the aid of this wonder drug, all you need is an ultra-power left?; (b) Manny has not shown the behavior of a guy in super-drugs who is all "about me . . me . . i can do this easily". Instead, if you ask Manny - he will just say - "I will try my best to do well, hopefully to win for the Filipino people" or "give God glory". I have not heard any of those humble words from all the drug convicted top athletes; and (c) Finally, no amount of "Mayweather or his minions propaganda" nor articles from writers that quick to judge on unwarranted accusations - - Society and the fans (casual/hard-core) will collectively in its wisdom make their own decisions - and vote empathically with their wallets (e.g. PPV/gate attendance). That will be the definitive statement!.

plus the fact that manny did not really bulk up in weight and muscles.
manny weighs 144 in the ring since morales 1 in 2006 and jmm.
he climed in the ring at 147 against diaz and barrera
manny weighed 148 against oscar, ricky and cotto.
where's the bulk up?!?

How dare you throw facts around here! You ain't playing fair dammit!

yes!!
hanson7 is now the most hated guy here for his unfair comment of facts!!
time to give green k though....

[RodBarker]

Vester , its because Manny refuses to be tested by the worlds most accurate PEDS testing protocol , its the best system for detection known ,,,,, Floyd asked for that and he has every right to ask for it in todays climate and stepping into a ring against it where he may be killed , you nor Manny have no argument lol , Pac refused that is why the world media are looking at him su****iously ,,,, its all very clear if your take your head of Mannys bum .

[cybertiledude]

Good research Mark Vester. I dont remember this happening between Mosley and Judah. While I agree it does show some hypocrisy, I still fell Manny should MAN -up and take the tests. But, this proves there are two sides to every story.

[trufightfanatic]

HEY Floyd (****) all this steroid and triple quadrouple blood testing mess and get your MONEY man. top rank/gbp. get ya money and give da dedicated boxing fans what we deserve

[xalucardx]

both parties are ***** but more Manny than Floyd , if you dont have nothing to hide , then why you dont make the test , a blood test aint gonna anything to you , and Floyd its almost trowing away a very BIG bag of money.


Anyway i think somebody its hiding something...

[SceneSpectator!]

Some info on HGH (from online medical sources): HGH taken alone is actually ineffective in enhancing performance. What the studies show is that HGH can only be effective when it is taken in conjunction with anabolic steroids (i.e. steriods can be detected by urine testing). This means that in order to get the maximum effect an athlete must take both at the same time. The trouble with this fact is that as mentioned earlier anabolic steroids can easily be detected, and with a simple urine test you can already get caught. The information campaign could also lay some emphasis on the possible risks and side effects that can result from too much intake of HGH. Some of these are acromelagy, which in layman's terms is gigantism, increased risk of diabetes, swelling of joints, edema, being more prone to different types of cancer and many others. If this can be done then it would probably dissuade athletes from even thinking about taking HGH.

Bottom line: Some boxing writers right now (not mentioning Colin here) are trying to say a "one way street" on HGH, however, if you look at the medical facts . . its not "conclusive" and likely much is to be learned and studied about these drugs. However, No amount of drugs will (1) improve your skills and strategy in the ring e.g. if this drug made everybody smarter or gave them a new fountain of skills, everybody will be using it!; (2) the idea of bulking up, c'mon - PacMan is known and recognize for his "speed", not his bulk body or armor muscles. If you ask me, bulking up, would actually sacrifice your speed . . so isn't this an anti-thesis of the Pacquiao fast machine; (3) in this high stakes negotiation where each side attempts to get the better deal i.e. Mayweather's request was answered "half-way" by Pacquiao - 3 blood tests (after fight announcement, before 30 days and just after the fight), these blood tests are not required for professional/competitive boxing in Nevada (Las Vegas), but Pacquiao offered this. The test just after the fight, should provide conclusive and reliable evidence that meet Olympic standards if Pac took anything! (these drugs stay in the body at least a week, depending of quantity taken); (4) Let's take a look at the messenger of this "unsubstantiated allegations" - Mayweathers camp - goodness! these guys are not the bastion of honesty and purity, heck, they could produce a reality series with their numerous court cases, run-ins with the law, tax problems, what have you.

We don't know whether this fight will push through or not . . However, the ascent of Manny to the top of the boxing world was duly documented in 24/7/media outlets/stories that show: (a) Manny took long hours in the gym, working on a strategy, improving his right hand to be as good as the left hand i.e. if this guy was really on super-performance drugs - why waste too many hours in the gym when you have super strength? why improve your right hand, when with the aid of this wonder drug, all you need is an ultra-power left?; (b) Manny has not shown the behavior of a guy in super-drugs who is all "about me . . me . . i can do this easily". Instead, if you ask Manny - he will just say - "I will try my best to do well, hopefully to win for the Filipino people" or "give God glory". I have not heard any of those humble words from all the drug convicted top athletes; and (c) Finally, no amount of "Mayweather or his minions propaganda" nor articles from writers that quick to judge on unwarranted accusations - - Society and the fans (casual/hard-core) will collectively in its wisdom make their own decisions - and vote empathically with their wallets (e.g. PPV/gate attendance). That will be the definitive statement!.

All these ****** "fans" who believes to Floyd Sr malicious comments to defame Pac good records, and called Pac fans "*******" are in fact in the league of the same IQ level of that Floyd Sr! They are the ass of Floyd actually. These ****** people are avoiding answer from simple question to elliminate perplexities, "Does blood test carried out just before and right after the fight could differ result or not?" Some answered but more in questions created rather than answers, but many do not want to answer this simply because they are bias!

[SceneSpectator!]

both parties are ***** but more Manny than Floyd , if you dont have nothing to hide , then why you dont make the test , a blood test aint gonna anything to you , and Floyd its almost trowing away a very BIG bag of money.


Anyway i think somebody its hiding something...

Hey you, what can we do if Pac is superstitious???! If pac believes that drawing a blood closer to his match will reduce his power then why not carried out test after the fight? huh? If he 's taking into something and has an effect during the fight which is the purpose of taking illegal substance, do you think this signature of substance that could be detected just before the fight could not be detected right after the fight, huh?! Answer me!!!

[mclovin]

Vester , its because Manny refuses to be tested by the worlds most accurate PEDS testing protocol , its the best system for detection known ,,,,, Floyd asked for that and he has every right to ask for it in todays climate and stepping into a ring against it where he may be killed , you nor Manny have no argument lol , Pac refused that is why the world media are looking at him su****iously ,,,, its all very clear if your take your head of Mannys bum .

out of tune and avoiding the thread LOLOLOLOLOLOL